PantherNation2015 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, cowboyandchrist said: Gilmer had 62 yards passing and 123 yards rushing. I have to rewatch the game again to write down where Gilmer took possession of the ball on each series. I know their first five possessions in the first half were punt, interception, punt, punt,and turn the ball over on downs. The stat I’m looking for is how many snaps each team took in opposing territory. I’m betting Carthage took 75% of their snaps across the 50 where Gilmer maybe 25%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BevBrownJr Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, michaelmyers said: Does anyone have the stats from the game? According to the game story in the Panola Watchman, Gilmer had 185 yards of offense, 123 on the ground (on 35 carries) and 62 passing (35 on the TD play). Ashton Haynes had 50 yards on 12 carries and QB Rohan Fluellen had 44 yards on 11 carries. Carthage had more than 300 yards of offense, with 182 through the air. LaRandion Dowden had a game-high 92 yards on 16 carries and QB Connor Cuff had 40 yards rushing. Totals for Matlock and the freshman Edwards weren’t given. Noah Paddie had 5 catches for 74 yards and 3 TDS, and Bradan Manning had 3 catches for 63 yards. There were 9 additional receptions by Montrel Hatten, KD Bell, et. al. Edited November 26, 2022 by BevBrownJr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BevBrownJr Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, bansheefan03 said: Problem for pg will be how long can they go blow for blow with carthage with so many going both ways How many go both ways for PG? And how many of those are linemen? Playing both ways on the line against Carthage sounds like more than a full day’s work. Edited November 26, 2022 by BevBrownJr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye55 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, BevBrownJr said: How many go both ways for PG? And how many of those are linemen? Playing both ways on the line against Carthage sounds like more than a full day’s work. I really don’t see this being an excuse or issue. They may play a series on def then take a series on offense off. Play def and then rush once and they come off for 3-4 plays. They are conditioned well and constantly run guys in and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, VonG said: This is a great opportunity for Marshall to host this game. I know they will be a great steward to both teams and community. Quick question for the Marshall faithful who will read this thread. When is the last time Marshall hosted a playoff game this late in the post season? And how often do they host playoff games this late in the season? We had Garrison play someone in a quarterfinal...but it's been a few years ago. Anything past the third round is pretty rare for Marshall simply because of geography most seasons. Generally we are too far East for match-ups. Our only hope is when we have North/South match-ups along the 59 corridor. I'm going to head to Marshall after work and make it to this game. On a related note....nothing is official..but Maverick Stadium is likely to get some pretty big upgrades this spring/summer in time for next season. Stay tuned. Good luck to PG and Carthage. Hoping for an exciting game! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackShirtD Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, mikehoncho said: Well that’s wild, changing offense mid season! But makes this game more exciting in my opinion. I’m very interested and curious to see the new look PG offense PG now runs the SPREAD with lots of boots and SOP’s. I bet Carthage has never seen that Surratt & Preston better start researching this thing Edited November 26, 2022 by BlackShirtD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikehoncho Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, BlackShirtD said: PG now runs the SPREAD with lots of boots and SOP’s. I bet Carthage has never seen that Lol it’s revolutionary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotton84 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, BlackShirtD said: PG now runs the SPREAD with lots of boots and SOP’s. I bet Carthage has never seen that Surratt & Preston better start researching this thing Drove by the school this morning and took a look inside the practice facility………The Dawgs were working on 2-7-2 defensive alignment……I was wondering why - now I know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbiased1 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, mikehoncho said: Lol it’s revolutionary! I don’t think anyone thinks the formation is revolutionary, I think PG finally letting a QB with a Texas Tech offer, and a RB with an Auburn offer play in space and make plays is what people are excited about. QB may be best athlete on field, it was a waste making him run the wing T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastTexasKnowItAll Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, Unbiased1 said: I don’t think anyone thinks the formation is revolutionary, I think PG finally letting a QB with a Texas Tech offer, and a RB with an Auburn offer play in space and make plays is what people are excited about. QB may be best athlete on field, it was a waste making him run the wing T. I think it worked out well for the best statistical QB in program history. Kid had almost 100 touchdowns from that boring offense. PG mauled folks up front on both sides from ‘17-‘19. That’s the difference now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikehoncho Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, Unbiased1 said: I don’t think anyone thinks the formation is revolutionary, I think PG finally letting a QB with a Texas Tech offer, and a RB with an Auburn offer play in space and make plays is what people are excited about. QB may be best athlete on field, it was a waste making him run the wing T. It is revolutionary for a program that’s been running the wing t. I’m all for it. I think it’s exciting when you have the athletes PG has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbiased1 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, EastTexasKnowItAll said: I think it worked out well for the best statistical QB in program history. Kid had almost 100 touchdowns from that boring offense. PG mauled folks up front on both sides from ‘17-‘19. That’s the difference now. Correct. PG also had a very big and athletic offensive line those years. Teams have adjusted to them as well, specifically ones with good coaching (Gilmer, Carthage, and Brock earlier this year). Also, that QB kid was a rare mix of talent, intelligence, and fortitude. Not saying the Johnson kid isn’t special, but that #10 was just a special dude… they don’t come around too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackShirtD Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 25 minutes ago, Unbiased1 said: I don’t think anyone thinks the formation is revolutionary, I think PG finally letting a QB with a Texas Tech offer, and a RB with an Auburn offer play in space and make plays is what people are excited about. QB may be best athlete on field, it was a waste making him run the wing T. Light Bulb moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbiased1 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, EastTexasKnowItAll said: I think it worked out well for the best statistical QB in program history. Kid had almost 100 touchdowns from that boring offense. PG mauled folks up front on both sides from ‘17-‘19. That’s the difference now. Also, that kid didn’t have the speed the Johnson kid does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 27 minutes ago, EastTexasKnowItAll said: I think it worked out well for the best statistical QB in program history. Kid had almost 100 touchdowns from that boring offense. PG mauled folks up front on both sides from ‘17-‘19. That’s the difference now. I always find it amusing when people say it is boring. PG had some big runs and big pass plays from that boring offense. Winning is never boring! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2J Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 27 minutes ago, swaha said: I always find it amusing when people say it is boring. PG had some big runs and big pass plays from that boring offense. Winning is never boring! Me too. Tells me they have no idea what is actually happening in that offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefan03 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 So yall switched after gilmer game so really don't know how good yall are at it since let's admit yalls district was pretty bad and the playoff teams outside of there own districts were not really good either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2J Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Just now, bansheefan03 said: So yall switched after gilmer game so really don't know how good yall are at it since let's admit yalls district was pretty bad and the playoff teams outside of there own districts were not really good either 100% agree. We don’t know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyandchrist Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Hawkeye55 said: I really don’t see this being an excuse or issue. They may play a series on def then take a series on offense off. Play def and then rush once and they come off for 3-4 plays. They are conditioned well and constantly run guys in and out. If PG linemen play both ways against the Dawgs, I assure you they will be gased by the third quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 5 hours ago, PantherNation2015 said: Not a complete change. Just think of it as PG having a set of plays in the Pistol to start the season, and then choosing to go full Pistol after the Gilmer game and adding to that set of plays. Gladewater is the team that changes offenses every week! So are they running their normal offense out of the pistol snap? Or did they fully change the offense up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Just now, cowboyandchrist said: If PG linemen play both ways against the Dawgs, I assure you they will be gased by the third quarter. That is what a lot of people don’t understand. They get hung up on the skill players, and the game is won in the trenches. PG has some size but not across the board like Carthage. PG will have to play a mistake free game and have some things go their way to have a chance to win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: So are they running their normal offense out of the pistol snap? Or did they fully change the offense up? You can go to Texarkana Gameday on YouTube and watch their game with Van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotton84 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Guessing Carthage runs a more hurried up offense this week than they have all year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, swaha said: You can go to Texarkana Gameday on YouTube and watch their game with Van. Yes or no would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye55 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, swaha said: That is what a lot of people don’t understand. They get hung up on the skill players, and the game is won in the trenches. PG has some size but not across the board like Carthage. PG will have to play a mistake free game and have some things go their way to have a chance to win the game. I understand where it is won, you’ve mentioned the 2017/2019 line 100 times. I agree those lines were better but this team has more athletes on it. Conditioning will not be a factor in this game. Will Carthage beat us in the trenches, maybe so but it will not be bc guys are going both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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