5A Division I State Semi-Finals: Longview vs Aledo

[JohnnyFootball]

3 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

What did they run?  I turned it off 

Pass plays. Aledo rushed 4, got pressure, and they didn’t have any prayer. One got batted down at the line. 

[Sportsguru02]

16 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

What did they run?  I turned it off 

Just throwing it up looking for a prayer 

[MrBuddyGarrity]

33 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

What kind of pass plays?  Did they try to get 8 the ball in space with blockers or a traditional drop back with 3 wr?  Be more specific

They threw one deep pass to Hale but he was looking left but the ball went right (I may have my military left and right wrong, long day). 2 defenders in the area. First play after the delay.

The last pass play was tipped and caught by a lineman. 

 

I'll let the Lobo folks tell about the in-between. 

Edited December 11, 2022 by MrBuddyGarrity

[MrBuddyGarrity]

Is Tatum okay? He never went back in and was limping pretty badly out the locker room after the delay was over. 

[Coach Rab]

8 hours ago, DB2point0 said:

What did they run?  I turned it off 

A weird go route, then the 2nd play was blown up early

[LionHated]

I knew the failure or inability to get Hale the ball would be the downfall of the Lobos this season. Something looked off ALL year. He was too easy to take out of the game plan and it was nothing the opposing teams defense was doing to him. Timberview did it last week with single coverage all game. I believe someone overthought it and depended too much on the run game. Tatum is great but Hale is “different”. You force feed “different” the ball all game long. Aledo had nothing that could match up with him. It should’ve been as simple as “my athlete is better than yours, match up”. Even JT’s former head coach had this formula down. 

[LionHated]

Oh and also 20 wasn’t utilized enough. Why keep slamming both of your backs into a brick wall all game. I believe Washington on the edges could’ve changed that game for LV. Coming from a JT fan, it’s just odd to watch not letting your athletes “out athlete” . Why? Duncanville, DeSoto, Soc and NS ALL did it yesterday. 

[AledoAlumni]

15 hours ago, Mr. P said:

Heartbreaking. 

Great season Lobos. Best of luck Aledo.

I was listening to the LV broadcast during the weather delay and they said this is a "crying game". Either tears of joy or hearbreak. Although this result was not what LV wanted they showed up and played extremely hard for 48 minutes. I know LV fans had higher aspirations  but they absolutely had a great season. 

[Quick]

On 12/9/2022 at 4:38 AM, SmoakyBandito said:

Some Longview fans getting a little disrespectful with these predictions. Matching up with one of, if not the top, program in the state. Longview is for sure the favorite, but this is historically the kind of game when we see the Lobos sent home. Seems like a lot of the fans (not all) have a very short memory.

I am just now seeing this and YES, unfortunately you are spot on in your analysis and according to your post here, you were dead on accurate! We have waaaay too many in our Lobo fanbase that REFUSE to be realistic year after year after year. They are too FAN-ATICAL to be objectionable or look at John King through a non-bias lense. 

He’s a damn good coach but, X’s & O’s wise, he’s nowhere near where he SHOULD be as a Head Coach and subsequently our football program gets shortchanged so-to-speak in reaching attainable goals like what happened last night. He’s too stubborn to change and get out of his own way and he’s doing a good enough job to the point that you really can’t challenge his job because he’s putting up numbers that other coaches could only dream of and he’s doing it at one of the largest high schools in all of East Texas and at one of the highest classifications. In my own personal opinion, John King is ultra-complacent, ultra-conservative yet ultra-consistent. 

But, his UNWILLINGNESS to want to be better and do the LITTLE things that will transcend him and this program to another level is what is going to keep us from ever winning another football title. As I have lamented before, John King is in his own way but, him being in his own way equates to him unfortunately being in this football program’s way as vain as that may sound to the die-hard King-ites in the Lobo community.

[Sportsfanatic1]

#respect

 

[AledoAlumni]

9 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

So they hoped their playmaker would make a play.  At least they targeted him.  

Its just hard to believe that LV decided to throw bombs. I know the clock is against you but you did still have the one timeout left. Why not try and get the first down then go from there. I dont want to question the calls but you had plenty of time during the delay to figure out something more creative. Those play calls seemed like there was no delay and you are just scrambling to make something happen. 

[JohnnyFootball]

1 hour ago, Sportsfanatic1 said:

#respect

 

High praise from an actual coach. 

Edited December 11, 2022 by JohnnyFootball

[JohnnyFootball]

43 minutes ago, AledoAlumni said:

Its just hard to believe that LV decided to throw bombs. I know the clock is against you but you did still have the one timeout left. Why not try and get the first down then go from there. I dont want to question the calls but you had plenty of time during the delay to figure out something more creative. Those play calls seemed like there was no delay and you are just scrambling to make something happen. 

He had made 2 big catches earlier in the game in double coverage. He was responsible for both our touchdowns. The 2nd down play was just under thrown. If he could’ve got it down there then Hale at least has a chance to make another big play.

I don’t disagree with you though. Get the first down first and then try to score. But I don’t hate saying “Go get it, Hale”. It worked before. 

Edited December 11, 2022 by JohnnyFootball

[dfwfootballfan]

On 12/9/2022 at 4:38 AM, SmoakyBandito said:

Some Longview fans getting a little disrespectful with these predictions. Matching up with one of, if not the top, program in the state. Longview is for sure the favorite, but this is historically the kind of game when we see the Lobos sent home. Seems like a lot of the fans (not all) have a very short memory.

I’ll expand on this a bit because it’s not just LV fans, it’s all ET fans…but you know what? This is an ET board. ET fans are some of the most knowledgeable, rabid, and committed fans in the state. You guys truly are a great fan base and I love coming here to read about hs football. 
 

My advice…be more objective.

If you go back and read most every thread/poll here on Smoaky this past week the ET team is picked to win by a ridiculous amount in most cases. Then read the comments, things get a little more “disrespectful with these predictions”. Again this is an ET board, I don’t fault any ET fan for believing in their team. I would just encourage fans to be objective, expect a good hard fought close game, not a blow out because your team is “the greatest”, especially in the semis. Lots of geographical pride once Region goes against Region. No one wants let down a quarter of the state, but your opinions are respected more, your pride isn’t hurt, and more importantly your heart won’t be so disappointed if you predict games objectively.

Look at the Boerne/CH, Timpson/Refugio, and Carthage/GR threads for reference just off the top of my head. Even though Carthage (great program) won look at some of the score predictions. Teams no matter how good will be challenged in the 5th week of the playoffs. Respect your opponents.

Awesome season Lobos, I can’t wait to watch Hale at the next level.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

6 minutes ago, dfwfootballfan said:

I’ll expand on this a bit because it’s not just LV fans, it’s all ET fans…but you know what? This is an ET board. ET fans are some of the most knowledgeable, rabid, and committed fans in the state. You guys truly are a great fan base and I love coming here to read about hs football. 
 

My advice…be more objective.

If you go back and read most every thread/poll here on Smoaky this past week the ET team is picked to win by a ridiculous amount in most cases. Then read the comments, things get a little more “disrespectful with these predictions”. Again this is an ET board, I don’t fault any ET fan for believing in their team. I would just encourage fans to be objective, expect a good hard fought close game, not a blow out because your team is “the greatest”, especially in the semis. Lots of geographical pride once Region goes against Region. No one wants let down a quarter of the state, but your opinions are respected more, your pride isn’t hurt, and more importantly your heart won’t be so disappointed if you predict games objectively.

Look at the Boerne/CH, Timpson/Refugio, and Carthage/GR threads for reference just off the top of my head. Even though Carthage (great program) won look at some of the score predictions. Teams no matter how good will be challenged in the 5th week of the playoffs. Respect your opponents.

Awesome season Lobos, I can’t wait to watch Hale at the next level.

 

Picking Longview to win “in a close one” is not disrespectful to Aledo nor is it an unreasonable prediction. 

What, specifically, did a Longview fan say that’s disrespectful to Aledo? Most of us thought we’d win but knew that Aledo is a legendary program who would NEVER be easy to beat. Again, nothing disrespectful about that.  

I disrespected Nederland and Crosby, but that’s cause they were trolling and I was just reminding them of who they are (2-8 and 6-5 lol)

Edited December 11, 2022 by JohnnyFootball

[AledoAlumni]

17 minutes ago, JohnnyFootball said:

He had made 2 big catches earlier in the game in double coverage. He was responsible for both our touchdowns. The 2nd down play was just under thrown. If he could’ve got it down there then Hale at least has a chance to make another big play.

I don’t disagree with you though. Get the first down first and then try to score. But I don’t hate saying “Go get it, Hale”. It worked before. 

It just seemed too predicable when the game was on the line. At least those TDs were just great playcalls. Idk just second hand coaching by myself. 

Edited December 11, 2022 by AledoAlumni

[AledoAlumni]

8 minutes ago, JohnnyFootball said:

Picking Longview to win “in a close one” is not disrespectful to Aledo nor is it an unreasonable prediction. 

What, specifically, did a Longview fan say that’s disrespectful to Aledo? Most of us thought we’d win but knew that Aledo is a legendary program who would NEVER be easy to beat. Again, nothing disrespectful about that.  

I disrespected Nederland and Crosby, but that’s cause they were trolling and I was just reminding them of who they are (2-8 and 6-5 lol)

Personally I never felt like Aledo was being disrespected. I did feel some comments were not as objective as they could have been but thats why those people are fans! Hopefully Aledo went out and earned the respect from this part of the state. I know our 2nd matchup with East Texas was much more pleasant than our 1st regarding the fan bases. Anyways, hope we can meet up again next year! 

Edited December 11, 2022 by AledoAlumni

[dfwfootballfan]

5 minutes ago, JohnnyFootball said:

Picking Longview to win “in a close one” is not disrespectful to Aledo nor is it an unreasonable prediction. 

What, specifically, did a Longview fan say that’s disrespectful to Aledo? Most of us thought we’d win but knew that Aledo is a legendary program who would NEVER be easy to beat. Again, nothing disrespectful about that.  

I disrespected Nederland and Crosby, but that’s cause they were trolling and I was just reminding them of who they are (2-8 and 6-5 lol)

My post wasn’t a personal attack man but look at the first two pages alone of this thread. Two people picked LV by 17 plus…you tried to be more objective, some others could follow your lead.

Honestly man I mean no disrespect, as I said previously ET fans are great.

[Coach Rab]

1 hour ago, AledoAlumni said:

Its just hard to believe that LV decided to throw bombs. I know the clock is against you but you did still have the one timeout left. Why not try and get the first down then go from there. I dont want to question the calls but you had plenty of time during the delay to figure out something more creative. Those play calls seemed like there was no delay and you are just scrambling to make something happen. 

That’s what I was thinking.  15 yr in route or post that at least puts the FG in play, or clock stoppage + a new set of downs

[Coach Rab]

18 minutes ago, dfwfootballfan said:

I’ll expand on this a bit because it’s not just LV fans, it’s all ET fans…but you know what? This is an ET board. ET fans are some of the most knowledgeable, rabid, and committed fans in the state. You guys truly are a great fan base and I love coming here to read about hs football. 
 

My advice…be more objective.

If you go back and read most every thread/poll here on Smoaky this past week the ET team is picked to win by a ridiculous amount in most cases. Then read the comments, things get a little more “disrespectful with these predictions”. Again this is an ET board, I don’t fault any ET fan for believing in their team. I would just encourage fans to be objective, expect a good hard fought close game, not a blow out because your team is “the greatest”, especially in the semis. Lots of geographical pride once Region goes against Region. No one wants let down a quarter of the state, but your opinions are respected more, your pride isn’t hurt, and more importantly your heart won’t be so disappointed if you predict games objectively.

Look at the Boerne/CH, Timpson/Refugio, and Carthage/GR threads for reference just off the top of my head. Even though Carthage (great program) won look at some of the score predictions. Teams no matter how good will be challenged in the 5th week of the playoffs. Respect your opponents.

Awesome season Lobos, I can’t wait to watch Hale at the next level.

 

On smoaky.com you will typically find 90-95% of all fan bases respectful towards the teams and players they face.  They have fun with it Monday-Thursday then all love Fri-Sunday.  Fans will always be homers, just the nature of things.  A sports bettor told me that if he loves a team, he will never put money on their games.  His head usually tells him that the team he loves is worth 7-10 more points than they actually are.  We see that to an extreme here.

[AledoAlumni]

2 minutes ago, MavGrad99 said:

That’s what I was thinking.  15 yr in route or post that at least puts the FG in play, or clock stoppage + a new set of downs

Or if you are going to take a deep shot why not with the other WR or TE running down the middle. Every Aledo fan knew to watch for #8. Or worse comes to worse throw a swing pass to #15 out of the backfield. Lord knows thats a tough kid to tackle! 

[dfwfootballfan]

1 minute ago, MavGrad99 said:

On smoaky.com you will typically find 90-95% of all fan bases respectful towards the teams and players they face.  They have fun with it Monday-Thursday then all love Fri-Sunday.  Fans will always be homers, just the nature of things.  A sports bettor told me that if he loves a team, he will never put money on their games.  His head usually tells him that the team he loves is worth 7-10 more points than they actually are.  We see that to an extreme here.

Some comments are easy to interpret, others not so much. lol that’s a smart man. Bet with your head not your heart.

[AledoAlumni]

Probably not a list LV wants to be on but I honestly believe this '22 LV team is state champion caliber. Just like '13 Ennis and '18 South Oak Cliff. 

Edited December 11, 2022 by AledoAlumni

[VonG]

You started all the mess with the other fan base. It's funny how you still bring it up and they don't even speak on Aledo. There is where the problem lies. 

[JohnnyFootball]

13 minutes ago, dfwfootballfan said:

My post wasn’t a personal attack man but look at the first two pages alone of this thread. Two people picked LV by 17 plus…you tried to be more objective, some others could follow your lead.

Honestly man I mean no disrespect, as I said previously ET fans are great.

Those people were not Longview fans lol

I appreciate you noticing be trying to be objective. Every team has homers. Longview gets a bad rep for being “arrogant” but I haven’t seen it here for the last 10 or so years.