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Really liked what I saw from Ewers tonight. He maneuvered in the pocket really well and went through his reads. He needs to build off that second half this spring. 

Jonathan Brooks is going to be really good. I’m very surprised he didn’t get the bulk of the carries. 
 

Terrance Brooks and Austin Jordan looked good in coverage. Not worried about losing Jamison to graduation. 
 

Worthy maybe tuck tail and head to USC. He put in a putrid effort tonight. 

Overshown was missed.

Washington oline was really good and the Qb is very good when given time. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, MrBuddyGarrity said:

Both teams look bad tonight. 

Relatively. But wouldn't you want a playoff game to end this way? Or at least find it acceptable?

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2 hours ago, KirtFalcon said:

I can't believe Bijan Robinson and Roschon Johnson walking around on the sidelines .... in my opinion, if they aren't playing they shouldn't be there ....

By all accounts they were at most of the practices and working as mentors. Does that justify your reaction?

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6 hours ago, Baron said:

By all accounts they were at most of the practices and working as mentors. Does that justify your reaction?

They should have suited up and played wth their team mates if the wanted to be mentors  ... they shouldn't have been at the practices either if they weren't going to play ... you lead by example ... Alabama's top players projected to be first round NFL draft choices are playing in their bowl games ... that's a great example of "team first" players who are real mentors ....

Leaders/mentors don't hang their teams out to dry while prancing around on the sidelines ....

 

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Before NIL, players may not have had the money to buy a one game insurance policy on being hurt……but with NIL in place, all the guys sitting out at the major universities have the money for such insurance………Everyone’s right to sit out, but in 2022 it shows you are not a team player. 

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It's very easy for us all to chastise these guys for sitting out of a bowl game and call them selfish because we do not have anything on the line. Last year, the 1st pick of the draft signed for 41+ million dollars and the last pick of the first round signed for just under 13 million. The typical insurance policy for college athlete tops out at $10 million and insurance providers only do this for players projected in the first 45 picks according to Parq Advisors - a top agency in Beverly Hills that does a lot of these deals. Overshown and Roschon would not qualify, and $10 million hardly comes close to what Bijan can make in his NFL career. I think Overshown should have played. He could have boosted his value with another showing of his ability and hustle. 

So let's sit here in the comfort of our home or office and dog these guys because they are making a life-changing decision for them and their families. I can honestly say watching these young men during their Texas careers that non of them would ever be considered selfish. Roschon came in as a QB and switched positions due to injuries in the RB room knowing he would not be the featured back. Bijan stayed with Texas when many outside of the program were saying he should transfer.

As for the Bama players, both are playing to boost their chance as the #1 pick in the draft. Last year there was a $10 million difference between the #1 and #6 picks in the draft. Bryce Young has the most to lose IMO. Three QBs are projected in the first five picks of most mock drafts. If he has a poor game, he could fall behind Levis and Stroud. 

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38 minutes ago, cotton84 said:

Before NIL, players may not have had the money to buy a one game insurance policy on being hurt……but with NIL in place, all the guys sitting out at the major universities have the money for such insurance………Everyone’s right to sit out, but in 2022 it shows you are not a team player. 

This is simply not a true statement. Insurance agencies don't just give out policies. A quick Google research showed that agencies will typically only insure players projected in the first 45 picks of the NFL draft. This would only apply to Bijan, and if you think he's not a team player then you just haven't paid any attention to the Texas football program over the last three years. 

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1 hour ago, DB2point0 said:

Not one Texas player that sat will be the top draft pick.  Bijan will go around 15-20 if I had to guess.  Most RB don’t go high as they used to.  

RoJo will be a round 4-6 pick, Overshown as well.  

15-20 is still a $15-20 million payday plus endorsements. RoJo and Overshown would go from being drafted (protected) to possibly a free agent signee if they were to get injured in the game. I do think Overshown could have improved his status, but I'm not the expert. And that's the thing that baffles me with this conversation. Do you think these players sit out if Texas was in the playoff? Has any of these three players done anything at Texas prior to the Alamo Bowl that had the characteristics of being selfish and not a team player?

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This is such a stupid argument. These guys have represented Texas well! Anyone who wants to question that because they sat out of 1 meaningless game is just being ridiculous, and simply upset because you’re only looking at it from a fans perspective. 
They had nothing to gain and everything to lose. 
If you have a problem with the fact they collected NIL money, unless you’re the one that gave it to them, then get over it. Those that did give it to them clearly had no problem with it. 

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5 hours ago, Valhalla said:

The Big 12 isn’t winning another bowl game.

That would be sad.  The B12 was a solid conference this year.

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I thank Robinson, Johnson, & Overshown for coming to Texas and being productive. Nothing in this game was going to raise their draft stock and especially Johnson & Overshown and an injury could kill their NFL dreams.
 

As for the Alamo Bowl, I thought the primary factor was Washington won the battles at the line. Even though we were running RB3 & RB4, Washington shut down the run and they gashed us up the middle. I felt Ewers had a good game with the exception of the last 30 seconds. I shook my head every time a pass to Worthy was more than 15 yards down field. Was the issue Worthy or the receiver coach? I felt the play by the receiving corp was suspect all year. But Worthy definitely stunk it up last night.

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2 minutes ago, bordertown said:

I thank Robinson, Johnson, & Overshown for coming to Texas and being productive. Nothing in this game was going to raise their draft stock and especially Johnson & Overshown and an injury could kill their NFL dreams.
 

As for the Alamo Bowl, I thought the primary factor was Washington won the battles at the line. Even though we were running RB3 & RB4, Washington shut down the run and they gashed us up the middle. I felt Ewers had a good game with the exception of the last 30 seconds. I shook my head every time a pass to Worthy was more than 15 yards down field. Was the issue Worthy or the receiver coach? I felt the play by the receiving corp was suspect all year. But Worthy definitely stunk it up last night.

I'm also wondering why there isn't more discussion about the WR coach. I was not impressed with our WRs for the most part this year. I did like what I saw in the TEs.

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50 minutes ago, MavGrad99 said:

That would be sad.  The B12 was a solid conference this year.

True, but pretty much every team besides Baylor is matched with a team ranked higher than them. 

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27 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

Did you watch the game?  Did 60,000 longhorn fans that spent their money for tickets, travel and eats think the game was meaningless?  If it were meaningless why watch it?

Yes, I watched the game. Are you new to bowl season? Neither are the people who bought tickets, knowing star players going into the draft sit out. 

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2 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

Why’d Texas accept the invite to a meaningless bowl?

That’s an easy one. It gives them 20 extra hours per week leading up to the game. Coaches typically refer to 15 extra practices, but the NCAA rule is actually hours per week with a max of 4 hours per day. Those practices are huge!

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6 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

Why’d Texas accept the invite to a meaningless bowl?

There’s also the bowl game swag. Up to $550 for 125 participants as well as new bowl game clothing and shoes. NCAA also allows an extra $400 from the school and $400 from the conference. Other perks would be field trips for the team. Not sure what Texas did in SA, but there’s always fun team things going on as well as charity opportunities. 

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3 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

But they’re subjecting their players to injury for a meaningless game?

Are you really that simple minded? There’s not much contact in post season practices. Practice rules are usually no going low and quick whistles. Blocking stops at first contact as well. Stop embarrassing yourself trying to make a moot point. You and others feel the players quit on their team while others understand the players sitting out. 

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Do you really need it explained to you what we mean when we call it 'meaningless'? 

 

Yes, there is benefit to playing a bowl game...extra practices, younger players getting playing time, extra revenue, etc. But winning the Alamo Bowl, Cheez it Bowl, or even the Bourbon Bowl doesn't carry any clout. It's not a playoff game. It's not a championship. 

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36 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

Why’d Texas accept the invite to a meaningless bowl?

Just because the game is “meaningless” to players entering the NFL draft, it is not meaningless to those participating in the bowl games. As mentioned previously, the coaches and players get extra practices. My understanding, early practices were more like the summer practices and not game planning for the Washington. If you are a true freshman, this is very important to your development and impressing coaches. Then there is the almighty $. The Alamo Bowl was the second highest bowl payout ($8,250,000) behind TCU’s game. I am not well versed in the current Big 12 bowl payout arrangement, but in the past participating teams got an extra share. As a fan unless it is for a national championship, it is meaningless as to whether we win or lose. But it is another opportunity to watch my team in hopes of a win.

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1 minute ago, DB2point0 said:

Fully understand it.  But the players wanted to be compensated.  Now they are.  Shouldn’t they be obligated since they signed contracts to play/advertise for money?  What about those business decisions. We’re they meaningless.  I think we will see changes in the NIL very soon.  To me, the bowl against a team you might not play every 30 years is more meaningful than a season opener against UTEP or ULM.  Those are meaningless.  

I never heard the three opting out was because they wanted additional compensation. You think Robinson’s value to Raising Cane’s was diminished more by opting out of the game or having his knee blown out playing. As to the early season games, I couldn’t disagree more. Ask A&M is their loss to Appalachian State was meaningless.

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