WETSU Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, MavGrad99 said: What if the NCAA throws you the middle finger and completely eliminates conferences? What does a real playoff look like then? Had this thought the other day. Take away conferences and every HC meets in Dallas and draws a number. That’s your seed. Play a 6 game season just for fun with whatever schedule you want, then start a 128 team tournament. Single elimination tournament for every single team with random draws for seeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, RETIREDFAN1 said: Top 16.......lol who determines the top 16? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, MavGrad99 said: who determines the top 16? BCS computers are still active...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Now let's have some real fun... Let's do World Cup format: 130 FCS football teams A complete random drawing every 2-4 years Group A, B, C, D, E, F, and G would have 8 teams, Group H would have 9 They each have to play each other to determine the group winner. A-G would have 6 group games each with 4 non-group games (that would not count), while group H would have 7 and 3 respectively. Top 2 in each group would get bids into the playoff. Playoff format: (16 teams) Round of 16 Game 1: Winner Group A vs Runner-up Group H Game 2: Winner Group H vs Runner-up Group A Game 3: Winner Group B vs Runner-up Group G Game 4: Winner Group G vs Runner-up Group B Game 5: Winner Group C vs Runner-up Group F Game 6: Winner Group F vs Runner-up Group C Game 7: Winner Group D vs Runner-up Group E Game 8: Winner Group E vs Runner-up Group D Quarter Finals Game 9: Winner of Game 1 vs Winner of Game 2 Game 10: Winner of Game 3 vs Winner of Game 4 Game 11: Winner of Game 5 vs Winner of Game 6 Game 12: Winner of Game 7 vs Winner of Game 8 Semi-Finals Game 13: Winner of Game 9 vs Winner of Game 10 Game 14: Winner of Game 11 vs winner of Game 12 Finals Game 15: Winner of Game 13 vs Winner of game 14 Suddenly for some of you, soccer group play will make much more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: BCS computers are still active...... Nick Saban literally had analysts on staff to break down the BCS and he manipulated his schedule to suit the BCS formula so he would have a much higher chance of getting in the BCS game. I can't remember if he did that while at LSU or Alabama, but that was all of the talk during the "SEC Dominance" Era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, MavGrad99 said: You mean my playoff. 10 team playoff, P5 conference champs, top ranked G5 champ and 4 at-large. No, all conference champs and 4 at large ... 16 total teams .... Edited December 5, 2022 by KirtFalcon yo mama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, MavGrad99 said: Nick Saban literally had analysts on staff to break down the BCS and he manipulated his schedule to suit the BCS formula so he would have a much higher chance of getting in the BCS game. I can't remember if he did that while at LSU or Alabama, but that was all of the talk during the "SEC Dominance" Era. Irrelevant with 16 teams instead of 2......you gotta WIN the games..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 42 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Irrelevant with 16 teams instead of 2......you gotta WIN the games..... Let's make it a 32 team playoff....All conference champions--all second place teams.....gives you 20--then 12 at large bids.....it is the way the basketball conferences use to do it. As they expanded, more conferences came into the mix....so maybe some of these "Mega" conferences would break up and we could have more conference champions automatic bids.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: Let's make it a 32 team playoff....All conference champions--all second place teams.....gives you 20--then 12 at large bids.....it is the way the basketball conferences use to do it. As they expanded, more conferences came into the mix....so maybe some of these "Mega" conferences would break up and we could have more conference champions automatic bids.. Try reading.....lol ....in his hypothetical there ARE no conferences....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Well that Hypothetical isn't reality, when it comes to conference money.....they all want it....greedy son of a guns..... It's time to pull the Sherman Anti-trust act out on NCAA Colleges Conferences.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: Well that Hypothetical isn't reality, That's why it's called a hypothetical nimrod...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: That's why it's called a hypothetical nimrod...... So you think that a hypothetical of following a soccer--a communist sport---is nimrodic.....figures....We need more reality in this world.....liberal...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: So you think that a hypothetical of following a soccer--a communist sport---is nimrodic.....figures....We need more reality in this world.....liberal...... You non math guys just can't handle it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: You non math guys just can't handle it....... I can do math....real math has a real outcome....that hypothetical math.....well it's hypothetical.....maybe you should hang out with Sheldon & Leonard..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle34 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 12:31 PM, Valhalla said: Tennessee should be the one kicking themselves. They would be in this playoff if they did not blow a game South Carolina. Blow a game? They got hammered. SC put up 63 on them. Bama was the Team that should be kicking themselves for Blowing the game against LSU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) I've mentioned this before, but the fix for this is relatively simple. There are 11 Division 1-A Conferences. Take the champions of each division, giving 11 teams. Add in the next-best team via schedule strength or something like it, for 12 teams. Now, there are two ways to handle this. In a 12 team playoff, rank those 12 teams by Strength of Schedule (or some other means other than these "polls" or this committee thing that they do). Include ALL the conferences. Have "tie breakers" in case some teams end up with the same schedule strength and number of wins. Top four teams after ranking get byes, the rest play each other, based on a "seeded" bracket system. For a 16 team bracket, do the same as above, but add in the remaining non-champion teams in the conferences, until you get 16 teams. Then, it's simply a matter of a "seeded" bracket, or heck I'd even be OK with a "regional" bracket to possibly reduce travel. I know what some of you are saying. "Nobody wants to see this". But to that I say, people seem fine with Alabama beating Northwestern Southeastern State 77-0 in the regular season. Why? They think it helps the rankings. And with the way things are done now, it probably does. If it didn't, do you really think Alabama would schedule Northwestern Southeastern State? And in the current format, rankings are all that matter. This alleviates most of that. I also know some of you are saying, "Well, then, nobody wants to see two top-ranked teams play each other early!" And to that I say this: How is that any different than two top-ranked High School teams playing early on in a bracket? How often has that happened? And then there's the "Power 5". An inherently unfair way of choosing the playoff teams. My understanding (and I don't follow college ball much) is that the only teams eligible to make it into the College Football Playoffs are "Power 5" Teams. This bracket system also allows for more playoff bowl games, too. If each playoff game in a 12-team bracket is a bowl game, that gives eleven bowl games, just for the playoffs. In a 16-team bracket, that number jumps to fifteen. More money for the NCAA, which is what you think they'd want. You're welcome. Edited December 8, 2022 by Monte1076 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/5/2022 at 1:13 PM, MavGrad99 said: Nick Saban literally had analysts on staff to break down the BCS and he manipulated his schedule to suit the BCS formula so he would have a much higher chance of getting in the BCS game. I can't remember if he did that while at LSU or Alabama, but that was all of the talk during the "SEC Dominance" Era. This is what happens when you schedule Bill's Barber College and Northeastern Southwestern State as non-conference opponents. You crush them, and it helps because you get a win, and score a bunch of points on a nobody opponent. It's part of the reason for the 222-0 score in the 1916 Georgia Tech vs Cumberland game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/5/2022 at 2:19 PM, RETIREDFAN1 said: Try reading.....lol ....in his hypothetical there ARE no conferences....... Why not just all conference champions from all 11 conferences, then the 5 "best" teams after those (via strength of schedule or something, see my other post above)? That gives 16 teams, five rounds of playoffs, and 15 games. Bracket them up, and let them play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Monte1076 said: Why not just all conference champions from all 11 conferences, then the 5 "best" teams after those (via strength of schedule or something, see my other post above)? That gives 16 teams, five rounds of playoffs, and 15 games. Bracket them up, and let them play. There are only 10 conferences......and making that correction, you match what I've been saying since the 4 team invitational came about ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: There are only 10 conferences......and making that correction, you match what I've been saying since the 4 team invitational came about ....... I'm counting the "independents" as a conference. http://www.espn.com/college-football/conferences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: I'm counting the "independents" as a conference. http://www.espn.com/college-football/conferences They don't count as a conference....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Semi-finals tonight: My gut tells me that we will get Georgia vs Michigan next week with Georgia winning it all again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 2 hours ago, MavGrad99 said: Semi-finals tonight: My gut tells me that we will get Georgia vs Michigan next week with Georgia winning it all again That is the match up I am rooting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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