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7 minutes ago, HearEmaGrowlin said:

No doubt, especially if it’s true. A&M is in Texas and not stuck way out in Lubbock. The fans are obsessed with TAMU, and there are plenty of big donor Ags pumping the university with $$.

You get a great education there and the post-graduation real life Aggie Connection is like nothing I’ve ever seen; it’s truly amazing how Aggies look out for other Aggies in many different industries. 

Back to sports, A&M does have vast potential and has not yet fully harnessed it.

I agree they still are trying to learn how to win. Winning starts at the top. Above the HC, above the AD all the way up to the Board. They have to be on the same page and hire the right president. Who has to hire the right AD, who has to hire the right coaches and give them the right money to get the right facilities they need, the coaches have to hire the right assistant coaches... point is A&M has never figured this out yet and they still will butt heads up top and it trickles down. Learning to win means putting egos aside and having one vision and being a slave to the W. Time will tell if A&M can accomplish this. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

Texas has a few bad years for sure, and aTm had an opportunity to distance themselves.  They didn’t.  Winning 66% of your games didn’t do it.  All of it could be solved if they played, but we know it won’t happen.  CDC has tried to make it happen and the sec didn’t want the matchup in bowl games.  

Quit playing that sec protected A&M card... the game would still be happening in the regular season if Texas didn’t cry like a baby and refuse to play when A&M left. A&M tried to keep the game and Texas made it a big deal. Now we won’t get the game back because of egos. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

Texas has a few bad years for sure, and aTm had an opportunity to distance themselves.  They didn’t.  Winning 66% of your games didn’t do it.  All of it could be solved if they played, but we know it won’t happen.  CDC has tried to make it happen and the sec didn’t want the matchup in bowl games.  

 

Had aTm went 75-15 in that span with a couple of NY6 appearances it might have changed their national perception.

That’s where you’re wrong though... national perception has absolutely changed. You’re blind if you don’t see it. You don’t want to see it, and you’re arrogant enough to not see it, but national perception absolutely changed for the better since 2012. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

You should read more than just Aggie sites.  

It’s not about reading sites. I don’t care about dudes with your IQ level or what they think about A&M, because they either don’t know or won’t admit what’s really happening.

A&M is landing talent from all over the country, luring top coaches from established programs, generating tons of media coverage that they didn’t get prior to the sec move... national perception has changed among the people who matter. Coaches and recruits. And national experts. Not some internet tough guy from a rival fan base... 

Posted
7 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

Quit playing the Texas crying card.  They tried to make it happen recently.  aTm’s AD said no.

Because Texas said no first... are you not capable of understand how egos work? 

You can’t point the blame at A&M now when it was Texas that started it... if Texas hadn’t started it the game would have never ended. Now BOTH programs are to blame for it. 

Posted
1 minute ago, DB2point0 said:

I can’t say what you are on a public forum

Why not? You hide behind a screen name on a forum the rest of the year...

So you're a coward too? Not sure why I'm surprised. 😂

Posted
21 minutes ago, JohnnyFootball said:

Wet, just stop. They have no interest in discussing things in good faith with you and have explicitly said so. 

Now now, I did say the main goal was to harass you two this morning, but that means to get some discussion going back and forth. We did have some convo today. 

Summertime with very little sports outside of baseball going on right now. We needed some fun to break up any boredom.

Posted
4 hours ago, WETSU said:

I don’t think anyone ever denied that.... Like I mentioned, the only thing talked about was head to head results, which are comparable once scholarships restrictions hit, which is what I consider the modern era of college football. Sure we can look back at wins and losses from before that, but that’s literally like comparing Notre Dame to Army. Texas and A&M simply were not attempting to be equals like they are now. Texas was a sports “regular” college while A&M was a service academy wanna be basically. The priorities of the two and the way they did business were so different, it’s very hard to fathom anything but the results to be lopsided in Texas favor: 

btw I’m not ashamed of that. I am proud of the history of Texas A&M. Their good and the bad. I wouldn’t trade it for a better football record against Texas. And yes I think their record would be much better if they had cared more about beating Texas than staying true to their vision as a university. 

Seems like A&M's current vision as a university is to enroll as many students as possible. I've got friends teaching there that state it's gotten out of hand. 

Posted
1 hour ago, JohnnyFootball said:

Anyway I'm out. Sorry ifyou fellas admittedly have nothing better to do with your Saturdays. I do. 😜

I do love getting stuff done on a Saturday. Got both of our vehicles washed and cleaned up really well on the inside. Tire shine, love it, and living on the concrete they stay clean longer. 

Growing up on oil top county roads in East Texas my truck would stay clean half as long, but at least I did have oil top!

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Lhornfan said:

Seems like A&M's current vision as a university is to enroll as many students as possible. I've got friends teaching there that state it's gotten out of hand. 

They have grown a ton. On the other hand, the results aren’t declining. That’s what matters to me. You would think the departments would decline with an “easier” acceptance standard and more students, but that’s not the case. Most departments are improving and the university endowment is skyrocketing. On the surface it looks like they are just turning into a diploma mil, but that’s not what’s really happening. 

Posted
1 hour ago, WETSU said:

They have grown a ton. On the other hand, the results aren’t declining. That’s what matters to me. You would think the departments would decline with an “easier” acceptance standard and more students, but that’s not the case. Most departments are improving and the university endowment is skyrocketing. On the surface it looks like they are just turning into a diploma mil, but that’s not what’s really happening. 

Well I have no doubt that A&M is a top quality education. I've just been surprised over the past 3-4 years in some of the students that have been accepted. There's no way they would have been accepted 10-15 years ago. If it works out for them, and A&M continues with a rigorous curriculum - that's awesome for all involved.

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On 6/8/2019 at 6:23 PM, Lhornfan said:

Well I have no doubt that A&M is a top quality education. I've just been surprised over the past 3-4 years in some of the students that have been accepted. There's no way they would have been accepted 10-15 years ago. If it works out for them, and A&M continues with a rigorous curriculum - that's awesome for all involved.

It’s funny that you brought this up, and A&M just announced they are going to change the automatic qualifiers starting the fall of 2021. 

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Post A&M Military School Years:

Heisman Finalists 

UT = 7; A&M = 1

All Americans

UT = 55; A&M = 25

Bowl Games

UT = 47; A&M = 32

Top 5 Finishes

UT = 16; A&M = 1

Weeks Ranked #1 

UT = 42; A&M = 0

National Championships

UT = 4; A&M = 0

 

Texas leads the series 32-20.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, HearEmaGrowlin said:

Post A&M Military School Years:

Heisman Finalists 

UT = 7; A&M = 1

All Americans

UT = 55; A&M = 25

Bowl Games

UT = 47; A&M = 32

Top 5 Finishes

UT = 16; A&M = 1

Weeks Ranked #1 

UT = 42; A&M = 0

National Championships

UT = 4; A&M = 0

 

Texas leads the series 32-20.

 

 

Growl.... we both know that it’s slanted to Texas when you throw stats like heisman finalist. Why not just say heisman winners? Because they are even and that doesn’t fit the argument lol

You also make sure to include Texas national titles. Why not make this the true comparison and start when scholarship limits started? That’s when it was truly equal footing. And since then it’s 1 national title, and the head to head is much much closer. I’m simply saying for arguments sake let’s just compare modern times. Which is scholarship limits forward. 

Lastly, i 100% agree and admit that no matter the parameters, Texas has had more success in athletics than A&M. I’m not sure any aggie has ever argued different. I think what we argue is that you guys treat A&M like they are Baylor. A&M is a top 25 football program all time. The stats do not deny that. Giving A&M it’s due in no means diminishes what Texas has built. That being said, the argument you’ll always hear from me is past success does not define future success. 10 years ago I would have argued that Texas football trajectory was much higher than A&Ms. today that simply isn’t the case. Both teams are recruiting at near identical levels and both are on par with each other in terms of resources and willingness to invest to win. 

But  I want to see you admit that A&M is the true rival of Texas. Either admit it, or stop posting this stuff and post the results against your “true” rival...

 

Posted
17 minutes ago, WETSU said:

Growl.... we both know that it’s slanted to Texas when you throw stats like heisman finalist. Why not just say heisman winners? Because they are even and that doesn’t fit the argument lol

You also make sure to include Texas national titles. Why not make this the true comparison and start when scholarship limits started? That’s when it was truly equal footing. And since then it’s 1 national title, and the head to head is much much closer. I’m simply saying for arguments sake let’s just compare modern times. Which is scholarship limits forward. 

Lastly, i 100% agree and admit that no matter the parameters, Texas has had more success in athletics than A&M. I’m not sure any aggie has ever argued different. I think what we argue is that you guys treat A&M like they are Baylor. A&M is a top 25 football program all time. The stats do not deny that. Giving A&M it’s due in no means diminishes what Texas has built. That being said, the argument you’ll always hear from me is past success does not define future success. 10 years ago I would have argued that Texas football trajectory was much higher than A&Ms. today that simply isn’t the case. Both teams are recruiting at near identical levels and both are on par with each other in terms of resources and willingness to invest to win. 

But  I want to see you admit that A&M is the true rival of Texas. Either admit it, or stop posting this stuff and post the results against your “true” rival...

 

A&M and Oklahoma are both huge Texas rivals.

Likewise, I have never thought of A&M as a piddly little ol’ BU or somebody of the like.

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Just now, HearEmaGrowlin said:

A&M and Oklahoma are both huge Texas rivals.

Likewise, I have never thought of A&M as a piddly little ol’ BU or somebody of the like.

In the way I view rivalries, there can only be one. I believe a rivalry takes a special kind of “hate.” That’s what makes them fun. I’ve lived my entire life in Texas. I’ve known more Texas fans than I can count. 99% of them care more about beating A&M than beating OU. At least they did. Losing to OU ####, but losing to A&M gets Texas coaches fired. Maybe the Texas fans on this board feel differently, but y’all sure love to talk about A&M, but rarely see any mention of OU unless it’s the week of that game. You don’t see OU debates or you posting OU vs Texas threads.... I’m just saying one of these is not like the other...

Its probably just because comparing Texas to A&M makes Texas look good, but comparing Texas to OU makes OU look better. 

Posted
27 minutes ago, WETSU said:

In the way I view rivalries, there can only be one. I believe a rivalry takes a special kind of “hate.” That’s what makes them fun. I’ve lived my entire life in Texas. I’ve known more Texas fans than I can count. 99% of them care more about beating A&M than beating OU. At least they did. Losing to OU ####, but losing to A&M gets Texas coaches fired. Maybe the Texas fans on this board feel differently, but y’all sure love to talk about A&M, but rarely see any mention of OU unless it’s the week of that game. You don’t see OU debates or you posting OU vs Texas threads.... I’m just saying one of these is not like the other...

Its probably just because comparing Texas to A&M makes Texas look good, but comparing Texas to OU makes OU look better. 

Haha, OU done thumped our rumps in number of Big 12 championships earned and have blown us out more often than we have them since the inception of the Big 12.

There was a stretch there where it felt like UT would never beat Oklahoma again.

With that said, there’s always been more on the line for both schools when UT and OU play as compared to when UT and A&M played each other. 

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