BarryLaverty Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Said this from the very beginning. Amazing to me how quickly 'conservatives' jump to the latest 'crisis'. (Washington Post) Opinion The hysteria over China’s spy balloon is dangerous and unwarranted By Max Boot Columnist February 6, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EST So the Battle of the Balloon is over — and, not surprisingly, America won. On Saturday, one of the most advanced U.S. weapons systems — an F-22 Raptor — shot down one of China’s most primitive surveillance systems: a balloon that had been traversing the United States during the previous week. The whole incident leaves me feeling unsettled and alarmed. Oh, I’m not worried about the spy balloon. The violation of U.S. airspace was unacceptable, but it did not pose any actual threat, and it’s doubtful that it gathered any intelligence that Chinese spy satellites cannot. What concerns me is the hysterical overreaction on the part of so many Americans to the balloon’s progress. Former president Donald Trump claimed that President Biden now “has surrendered American airspace to Communist China,” even though the Pentagon reports that Chinese balloons had crossed into U.S. airspace at least three times during Trump’s own presidency. “The president failed on this one,” said New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu (R). “Tough guy, Joe. Too little, too late,” huffed talk-show host Mark Levin. “Bought and paid for by the Communist Chinese government.” What is it that Biden was supposed to have done? Should he have personally climbed into an F-22 cockpit and led the attack on the balloon like the president played by Bill Pullman in “Independence Day”? Should he have launched a nuclear strike against China in retaliation? Republicans didn’t have any clear alternatives, but that did not stop their hyperventilating. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) argued that China sent the balloon to show “that the United States is a once-great superpower that’s hollowed out, it’s in decline.” The reaction was so overwrought that Biden felt compelled to postpone Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s trip to China. That’s too bad, because the frenzy over the spy balloon underlines the need to establish better lines of communications with Beijing to prevent U.S.-China tensions from spiraling out of control. The balloon-mania, after all, comes only a few days after Air Force Gen. Michael A. Minihan, head of Air Mobility Command, sent out a memo to his subordinates predicting war with China within two years: “I hope I am wrong,” he wrote. “My gut tells me we will fight in 2025.” Sounding like one of the unhinged generals in Stanley Kubrick’s Cold War satire “Dr. Strangelove,” he advised his airmen — who operate and maintain cargo aircraft — to “fire a clip into a 7-meter target” and “aim for the head.” Minihan and everyone else who thinks that war is imminent (e.g., House Foreign Affairs Committee chairman Michael McCaul [R-Tex.]) needs to get a grip. CIA Director William J. Burns said last week that Chinese leader Xi Jinping had ordered his military to be ready to invade Taiwan by 2027, but “that does not mean that he’s decided to conduct an invasion in 2027, or any other year.” Indeed, Burns noted, Russia’s bungled invasion of Ukraine might give Xi pause before launching a risky attack of his own. War with China can and should be avoided — but we make it more likely by assuming it’s inevitable or by giving vent to exaggerated fears about Chinese power. The kind of anti-Chinese paranoia we are now seeing reminds me of the early days of the Cold War. Back then, there was also a sense that the United States was losing a global struggle with the Communists and that World War III might be nigh. That was a dangerous, destructive mind-set that led to anti-Red witch hunts at home and to ill-fated, costly military interventions such as the one in Vietnam. It almost led, during the Cuban missile crisis, to nuclear Armageddon. In reality, the Soviet Union was never as strong or as reckless as so many imagined — and neither is Communist China. Xi presides over a country with an aging population, a slowing economy and few friends. That helps to explain why he has lately been trying to mend ties with the United States and Europe. The United States, while it has a smaller population than China, is actually stronger by most measures of hard or soft power. Indeed, Australia’s Lowy Institute, in its annual survey of the balance of power in Asia, finds the United States still in first place ahead of China. The index notes that the United States leads in “future resources, resilience, defence networks, cultural influence, and military capability.” Last week saw another reminder of one of our key advantages — we have a lot more allies than China — when the Philippines agreed to extend U.S. access to four more military bases. None of those advantages are negated by China’s ability to send a balloon wafting over the United States. Indeed, it’s not clear that China accomplished anything other than alarming Americans about the threat it poses. A healthy concern about China’s growing power is warranted, but paranoia and alarmism are not. The United States is still the No. 1 power in the world, and we can remain that way as long as we do not blunder into a catastrophic and unnecessary war with a No. 2 power whose rise might have already peaked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Barry’s article basically says “it’s not a big deal because we have a democrat in office.” He would be losing his mind if this would have been news during Trump’s time in office. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 None of us on HERE give a crap about Larry's propaganda........ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinese-surveillance-balloon-least-5th-063825760.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 24 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: None of us on HERE give a crap about Larry's propaganda........ Said the man who jumps to like a scalded cat every time a 'conservative' source tells him to do so! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBizzle Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 It's not a big deal because we doubt it was able to collect any info is the argument. I love it. Sovereignty means nothing to the administration that has us being overrun with illegal immigrants by the millions, so it's not surprising that they don't care that our air space was violated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) So, @BarryLaverty Larry turns to another liberal slant source .... sister witch to the NY Slimes ..... the equally debunked Washington Compost ..... Edited February 6, 2023 by KirtFalcon yo mama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiOne Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 How to say you are a beta cuckold without saying you are a beta cuckold. I can't imagine defending such weak TobinFrost behavior. Not surprised though, coming from barry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBizzle Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: CIA Director William J. Burns said last week that Chinese leader Xi Jinping had ordered his military to be ready to invade Taiwan by 2027, but “that does not mean that he’s decided to conduct an invasion in 2027, or any other year.” I mean, he said to be ready, but that doesn't mean he's gonna do it. Maybe he's smarter than our president and doesn't announce the date of major operations like withdrawing from Afghanistan. But we shouldn't worry about the words that actually come out of Xi's mouth. 3 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: The United States is still the No. 1 power in the world And we are doing all we can to end that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 So the “Trump let spy balloons go by too” mantra is hysteria as well then. Right?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Trump did not let spy balloons go by, abd had this happened during Trump’s tenure Barry and all Democrats would’ve been losing their minds. The hypocrisy is just insane. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Since Barry wants to joke about the balloon this should really make a LIb like himself laugh since it was able to fly over our whole nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlahBlah Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Yes, their are much better ways that China can spy on us other than a balloon. The fact China did it is the big issue. It was China gave the US the middle finger. Showing the word that America is a power and influence of the world is in the decline. China plans to be the dominate roll in the world in the near future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 It had to be taken down, because we don't know what it was doing. Sure "they" said it was for weather research, but we don't know if it had alternative missions are not such as spying on military bases, potential to drop an atomic bomb or dirty bomb or even a biohazard material enough to wipe out a city. It could have just been a test run to see what we would do. If we allow for foreign countries to do this then it shows that we are at risk. We had to shoot it down just as the Soviet Union shot down Gary Powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 4 hours ago, HearEmaGrowlin said: Trump did not let spy balloons go by, abd had this happened during Trump’s tenure Barry and all Democrats would’ve been losing their minds. The hypocrisy is just insane. This very appropriate for the Barryister, because we know those people on the left would have cried at the moon if this had happened with the prior administration. But now that a tulip brain is in office it's no big deal, because he really doesn't know it happened, only the puppetmaster speaks for him. He should be impeached for failure to protect, defend this nation from enemies foreign and domestic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, BlahBlah said: Yes, their are much better ways that China can spy on us other than a balloon. The fact China did it is the big issue. It was China gave the US the middle finger. Showing the word that America is a power and influence of the world is in the decline. China plans to be the dominate roll in the world in the near future. China knows our potus is a spineless mush head 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 All hysteria! https://nypost.com/2023/02/06/chinese-spy-balloon-was-200ft-tall/ Maybe why they didn’t shoot it down. But still should have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 9 hours ago, ObiOne said: How to say you are a beta cuckold without saying you are a beta cuckold. I can't imagine defending such weak TobinFrost behavior. Not surprised though, coming from barry I am fairly certain I could say BOO in your face and make you doodle your drawers. You aren't tough, you know that, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiOne Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: I am fairly certain I could say BOO in your face and make you doodle your drawers. You aren't tough, you know that, right? You can feel free to try. People like you make hard times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 10 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: You aren't tough, you know that, right? Are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: Are you? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Yep. And you presume to know how tough (or not) others on this forum are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BarryLaverty Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Monte1076 said: And you presume to know how tough (or not) others on this forum are? I am not the one who likes to trot out that beta ##### every other post. And, I can say with surety that I could handle myself with the gentlemen on here, absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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