BarryLaverty Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 The vote was 121-23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RETIREDFAN1 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 How did your legislator vote? Mine just committed political suicide....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/27/ken-paxton-impeached-texas-attorney-general/ A 121-23 vote. 60 Republicans voted for it, of the 85 Republican members. Nearly 71%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monte1076 Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) A lot of what I see is complaining about Ken Paxton being impeached. No comments on the actual articles themselves, or their possible ramifications. Forget who they're about for a minute. Look at the articles, and decide based on the content of the articles, if the accusations rise to the level of impeachment. If they do, what's the problem? He was kinda hoisted on his own petard. The committee made a statement that if he hadn't tried to get the Texas taxpayers (through the Legislature) to cover the $3.3 million he owed, the impeachment articles likely wouldn't have been drawn up, and there likely wouldn't have been an investigation. Also, how many times on this very forum do people talk about holding government officials accountable? Edited May 28, 2023 by Monte1076 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RETIREDFAN1 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 49 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: A lot of what I see is complaining about Ken Paxton being impeached. No comments on the actual articles themselves, or their possible ramifications. Forget who they're about for a minute. Look at the articles, and decide based on the content of the articles, if the accusations rise to the level of impeachment. If they do, what's the problem? He was kinda hoisted on his own petard. The committee made a statement that if he hadn't tried to get the Texas taxpayers (through the Legislature) to cover the $3.3 million he owed, the impeachment articles likely wouldn't have been drawn up, and there likely wouldn't have been an investigation. Also, how many times on this very forum do people talk about holding government officials accountable? You can't trust the articles because due process was thrown out the door........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monte1076 Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: You can't trust the articles because due process was thrown out the door........ Well, considering an impeachment is essentially the equivalent to an indictment, I'd say that due process is running its course. There were accusations, then an investigation. A committee recommended charges (i.e. the articles). The house voted on said articles (i.e. agreeing with the assessment of the charges). Now comes the trial in the Texas Senate. That sounds a lot like "due process" to me. So does this mean, though, that you don't trust any impeachment ever because of this "due process" thing? Edited May 28, 2023 by Monte1076 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 18 hours ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: How did your legislator vote? Mine just committed political suicide....... Hey, at least I can say that MINE did not vote....he resigned a couple of weeks ago because he was getting under 21 year old's drunk and having sex with them.......he committed his political suicide in the bedroom..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 5 hours ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: You can't trust the articles because due process was thrown out the door........ Aren't these "articles" part of the "due process".....they bring accusations, the senate tries the case......that would be "due process" wouldn't it? Just like a grand jury, listen to the evidence, decide to go to trial or not....that is what the legislators did.....now the legislators will have to PROVE that these things occurred and that Paxton is guilty.....that is DUE PROCESS..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 19 hours ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: How did your legislator vote? Mine just committed political suicide....... Mine voted Aye. Finally did something I agreed with.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Monte1076 said: Well, considering an impeachment is essentially the equivalent to an indictment, I'd say that due process is running its course. There were accusations, then an investigation. A committee recommended charges (i.e. the articles). The house voted on said articles (i.e. agreeing with the assessment of the charges). Now comes the trial in the Texas Senate. That sounds a lot like "due process" to me. So does this mean, though, that you don't trust any impeachment ever because of this "due process" thing? Believe whatever you want...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 57 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: Aren't these "articles" part of the "due process".....they bring accusations, the senate tries the case......that would be "due process" wouldn't it? Just like a grand jury, listen to the evidence, decide to go to trial or not....that is what the legislators did.....now the legislators will have to PROVE that these things occurred and that Paxton is guilty.....that is DUE PROCESS..... Witnesses weren't even sworn in.......try reading some articles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monte1076 Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 2 hours ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Witnesses weren't even sworn in.......try reading some articles... And the defense can bring that up during the Senate trial...can they not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Monte1076 said: And the defense can bring that up during the Senate trial...can they not? Paxton's wife is a senator.......don't know if that's good or bad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Dan Patrick will be presiding...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Dan Patrick will be presiding...... You mean Dan Goeb, the carpetbagger from Maryland......that's a fine choice...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: You mean Dan Goeb, the carpetbagger from Maryland......that's a fine choice...... A great Texan......for now.....lol.... we'll see how that holds up after the trial....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Just now, RETIREDFAN1 said: A great Texan......for now.....lol.... we'll see how that holds up after the trial....... So you think a Maryland carpetbagger, who changed his name because of things from his past is a great Texan.....OMG....this world is definitely coming to an end.....he is the absolute worst LT Governor we've ever had....plus, he's a bigger liar than Ken Paxton..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: So you think a Maryland carpetbagger, who changed his name because of things from his past is a great Texan.....OMG....this world is definitely coming to an end.....he is the absolute worst LT Governor we've ever had....plus, he's a bigger liar than Ken Paxton..... I've voted for him every election..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Only 24% of goppers in #drunkdade district plan on voting for him next primary......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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