DeSantis Thinks The Libs Are Afraid Of Him. It's Republicans Who Want Him To Get Lost.

[BarryLaverty]

Has to be a little disheartening, huh, @Monte1076 to faithfully carry that 'Woke' banner for a long time and see its poster child fall on his face, right? 
 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/desantis-thinks-libs-afraid-him-080121238.html

 

Opinion

DeSantis thinks 'the libs' are afraid of him. But it's GOP voters who want him to get lost.

Rex Huppke, USA TODAY

Sun, August 6, 2023 at 3:01 AM CDT

So there is this funny thought rattling around GOP presidential primary candidate Ron DeSantis’ noggin, and the noggins of various right-wing pundit types, that “the left” – a blanket term for all liberals and members of the non-Fox-News media – has it out for the Florida governor.

The fear from "the left", apparently, is that DeSantis would be a stronger candidate against President Joe Biden than former President Donald Trump, so liberals like me are conspiratorially bending over backward to submarine DeSantis’ campaign.

There’s not enough space in this column for me to write the necessary number of HAHAHAAAs to respond to that idea, so I’ll share three quick thoughts:

1. DeSantis doesn’t need me or any other liberal to submarine his campaign. He’s doing a marvelous job of that all on his own.

2. Based on current polling, it's Republicans who want nothing to do with him. The most recent polling average from Five Thirty Eight shows only about 14% of GOP voters want DeSantis as their presidential candidate.

3. As far as I’m concerned, I’d take Biden vs. DeSantis over Biden vs. Trump any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

DeSantis is running one of the worst presidential campaigns in recent memory

Let’s start with DeSantis’ “they’re all out to get me” conspiracy.

In a July interview on Fox News, DeSantis said of “the corporate press”: “They don't want somebody like me to come in and dismantle the administrative state. Both from an electoral perspective and a substantive perspective they view me as the most significant threat to their agenda.”

 

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis campaigns for president on July 15, 2023, in Nashville, Tenn.

That’s very stupid, of course. It presupposes that all journalists get together for weekly “Liberal Agenda Meetings” (we don’t, we hate meetings). And it overlooks the fact that the only thing DeSantis poses a “significant threat” to right now are the claims past GOP presidential candidates Jeb Bush and Scott Walker have to the title of “Most Disastrous Presidential Campaign.”

Believing the DOJ is angling to keep DeSantis off the ballot is upper-level loopy

Conservative columnist Rich Lowry suggested recently in the New York Post that the federal indictments against Trump are part of some nefarious game of three-dimensional chess going on at the Department of Justice, which I guess in this scenario is packed with raging liberal prosecutors. The gist is that indicting Trump helps the former president and makes it harder for DeSantis to get attention:

“Consider this thought experiment: If the Justice Department and the other prosecutors knew that the indictments guaranteed a Ron DeSantis or Tim Scott nomination, would they still go through with them?”

To which I respond: Yes! Because unless you spend all your time snorkeling the murky fever swamps of right-wing paranoia, you understand that the Justice Department is going to prosecute whoever it needs to prosecute whenever it has the evidence to prosecute them. Life isn’t a grand, multi-agency conspiracy. It’s actually quite simple. 

If liberals are afraid of anyone beating Joe Biden, it ain't Ron DeSantis

So DeSantis and Co. believe some grand liberal cabal is terrified of the Florida governor because, as he said in his Fox News interview, “they know that I would beat Biden and beat him soundly.”

For starters, I don’t know with any certainty who can or can’t beat Biden. We’ve got a long way to go before the 2024 election.

 

August 3, 2023: Former President Donald Trump arrives to board his plane at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airpor in Arlington, Va., after facing a judge on federal conspiracy charges that allege he conspired to subvert the 2020 election.More

I also don’t particularly care who can or can’t beat Biden, because my job, contrary to DeSantis’ belief, is not to help any Democratic candidate or destroy any Republican candidate. My job is to share my opinion on the things I see happening in the world, and if that opinion is sometimes “Ron DeSantis is doing very bad and unlikable things,” then it is what it is.

That said, if I was worrying about which GOP presidential primary candidate poses the biggest threat to President Biden’s reelection, I assure you the candidate I’d be focusing on would not be Ron DeSantis.

DeSantis has the retail political skills of an alien trying to mimic human behavior

As a native of Florida, I’ve paid attention to DeSantis longer than most, and since the earliest mention of his presidential aspirations, I thought: “Nope. This guy is unlikable, un-engaging and painfully awkward. You put him on a national stage, regardless of what conservatives think about his draconian right-wing policies in Florida, and he will turn people off.”

That has proven accurate, and it’s part of why he’s getting his keister handed to him in the primary by a man who can’t stop losing elections or getting indicted.

A six-week abortion ban and fights over slavery? That spells trouble

The other part, beyond the empty space where DeSantis’ personality should reside, is that much of what he has done in Florida runs afoulof the way most Americans, and particularly younger voters, view the world.

The six-week abortion ban he signed into law is broadly unpopular and will box him in badly on the wrong side of an issue that drives voters to the polls.

 

Hundreds participate in the National Action Network demonstration in response to Gov. Ron DeSantis' rejection of a high school African American history course, Wednesday, Feb. 15, 2023, in Tallahassee, Fla.More

He’s on the record previously supporting cuts to Social Security and Medicare, and while he has tried to backpedal, it leaves him open to heavy attacks on two federal programs voters covet.

 

 

His attacks on diversity in education had him recently defending a curriculum requiring teachers to note that some slaves “developed skills” that could be used for “personal benefit,” outraging people on both sides of the aisle.

DeSantis seems to think he can out-cruel Donald Trump

Just last week, the College Board said Florida laws banning topics related to gender and sexuality have “effectively banned AP Psychology” classes in the state, upending the schedules of thousands of students just as classes are about to start.

DeSantis capped off last week by infuriating the two largest federal worker unions by saying at a campaign event: “On bureaucracy, you know, we’re going to have all these deep state people, you know, we’re going to start slitting throats on Day One and be ready to go.” -

 

American Federation of Government Employees National President Everett Kelley responded in a statement, saying “violent anti-government rhetoric from politicians has deadly consequences. Any candidate who positions themselves within that shameful tradition has no place in public office.”

Desperate DeSantis: Flailing DeSantis campaign leans into anti-LGBTQ ad, tries to out-cruel Trump

Trump has a stranglehold on the GOP base. DeSantis very much does not

Trump, for all his upcoming court dates and failures and general horribleness, has a following so loyal his presidential primary numbers INCREASED the first two times he was indicted. He’s a bucket of Kool-Aid shy of a cult leader.

 

Supporters of Former President Donald Trump are seen near the courthouse ahead of his arraignment on four charges related to the 2020 election.

DeSantis, on the other hand, is a stumbling mess who’s about as affable as an aggrieved porcupine, and the policies he has embraced – along with his comical repetition of the word “WOKE!” – are things that anger liberal and many independent voters.

 

 

So if you think I, as a devious liberal fellow, fear DeSantis becoming the GOP presidential nominee and am thus conspiring to bring him down, you need to lay off the legal marijuana (thanks, Democrats!) and take a breath.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Sometimes politicians are ridiculed simply because they stink.

[Monte1076]

Because a high number of GOP supporters are backing Trump. Haven't you seen polls recently?

At least I can actually define the word "woman".

Edited August 6 by Monte1076

[Haymaker]

That’s how bad RINO’s hate Trump. They basically through a good candidate in 2028 in the trash this go around. DeSantis should’ve been more patient. 

[RETIREDFAN1]

Establishment loves Desantis....good thing for us that MAGA has taken over and establishment are becoming irrelevant.....that's why all @KirtFalcon favorites like John Crony are saying they gonna become democrats........

[RETIREDFAN1]

3 minutes ago, Haymaker said:

That’s how bad RINO’s hate Trump. They basically through a good candidate in 2028 in the trash this go around. DeSantis should’ve been more patient. 

Most Trump supporters weren't going to support establishment hero Desantis in 2028 either ..... we're done with the uniparty.......

[Haymaker]

1 minute ago, RETIREDFAN1 said:

Most Trump supporters weren't going to support establishment hero Desantis in 2028 either ..... we're done with the uniparty.......

He had me fooled. He is indeed a uniparty member. I guess it’s a good thing he ran. Jerked the sheep’s clothing right off of him. 

[Lion7000]

Libs are terrified of conservatives because their guy is useless and gets destroyed in 2024.

[KirtFalcon]

4 hours ago, RETIREDFAN1 said:

Establishment loves Desantis....good thing for us that MAGA has taken over and establishment are becoming irrelevant.....that's why all @KirtFalcon favorites like John Crony are saying they gonna become democrats........

 

[Red90fly]

Just your daily Florida/Desantis thread from good ol' Barry.

[ctown81]

8 hours ago, Monte1076 said:

Because a high number of GOP supporters are backing Trump. Haven't you seen polls recently?

At least I can actually define the word "woman".

Republicans may be in some trouble now bc DeSantis' recent actions could possibly cause a mass exodus of black republicans. 

Edited August 7 by ctown81

[Monte1076]

8 hours ago, ctown81 said:

Republicans may be in some trouble now bc DeSantis' recent actions could possibly cause a mass exodus of black republicans. 

We'll have to find out, won't we?

[gamewatcher63]

9 hours ago, ctown81 said:

Republicans may be in some trouble now bc DeSantis' recent actions could possibly cause a mass exodus of black republicans. 

I’m sure you will crack the whip and get those uppity black republicans back in line for SloJoe….”if you don’t know who to vote for……YOU AIN’T BLACK”……….direct quote there for ya ctown clown

[ctown81]

16 minutes ago, gamewatcher63 said:

I’m sure you will crack the whip and get those uppity black republicans back in line for SloJoe….”if you don’t know who to vote for……YOU AIN’T BLACK”……….direct quote there for ya ctown clown

Got to love the first 3 letters in assume. I made my political stance clear many times on here. 

 

[gamewatcher63]

Yes Sir…..it’s a modern day plantation around here…..

https://nypost.com/2023/05/02/biden-tells-white-house-guest-to-hush-up-boy/

[ctown81]

1 hour ago, gamewatcher63 said:

I’m sure you will crack the whip and get those uppity black republicans back in line for SloJoe….”if you don’t know who to vote for……YOU AIN’T BLACK”……….direct quote there for ya ctown clown

Wait I just caught something... In my 41 yrs of life, I've never heard a black person say the word "uppity", I've only heard it from racist white people.  Oh the irony of it all

[Monte1076]

1 hour ago, ctown81 said:

I've only heard it from racist white people.  Oh the irony of it all

I've heard that...most recently from white liberals.

[gamewatcher63]

4 hours ago, ctown81 said:

Wait I just caught something... In my 41 yrs of life, I've never heard a black person say the word "uppity", I've only heard it from racist white people.  Oh the irony of it all

Irony….a black person telling other black people to “get back on the plantation”……..

[ctown81]

1 hour ago, gamewatcher63 said:

Irony….a black person telling other black people to “get back on the plantation”……

I never said that. 

[ctown81]

4 hours ago, Monte1076 said:

I've heard that...most recently from white liberals.

Wait...so you're friends with white liberals? Just curious about how you were able to hear a liberal say this. Not saying they did or didn't but just wondering about proximity.

Edited August 7 by ctown81

[Monte1076]

25 minutes ago, ctown81 said:

Wait...so you're friends with white liberals? Just curious about how you were able to hear a liberal say this. Not saying they did or didn't but just wondering about proximity.

I have my sources.

[ctown81]

........... 

[ctown81]

6 minutes ago, Monte1076 said:

I have my sources.

Why do you need a source for something you heard yourself? 

[Monte1076]

21 minutes ago, ctown81 said:

Why do you need a source for something you heard yourself? 

Heard/read...I'm gonna tell you what the government tells us so often. Trust me.

But here's a little experiment for you...search this forum (the political one) for that particular word. See how many results you get, and see how many times I've used it, and how many times others have used it. And compare. "White people" aren't the only ones using that word.

Edited August 7 by Monte1076

[Doomer]

I'd like to see all political pencilnecks go toe to toe in a bracketed roundrobin Kravmaga match. We would see who really wanted to be there and who wanted to run their heads about the others. Problem with these politic slaps is there's no consequences for laws they break or the lies they spread.

[ctown81]

16 minutes ago, Monte1076 said:

Heard/read...I'm gonna tell you what the government tells us so often. Trust me.

But here's a little experiment for you...search this forum (the political one) for that particular word. See how many results you get, and see how many times I've used it, and how many times others have used it. And compare. "White people" aren't the only ones using that word.

so you want me to research a claim YOU made?