Honey Grove vs Cooper { ghost of Gunter} next week

[blueflu]

 Leonard is still the only team to never beat Gunter in our area.  Coach Fletcher was Coach of Leonard for most of those years.  You can imagine what this means to him. i believe at last count leonard 0  Gunter 27.

[blueflu]

Cooper head coach is former Gunter def coord

[ShoelessJoe]

Doesn’t sound good for The Grove, if Fletch is still haunted by Gunter and their former coaches.  Could Honey Grove come into this game still not allowing a point??? Taking Gunter, oops I mean Cooper for the win.

[Warriorborn]

Cooper = Gunter East. Or they at least try to be, all the way down to their uniforms and helmet logos. Cooper imo is not as good as they were last year, but still a good football team. Honey Grove on the other hand is a much better team than last year and should come out with the win.

[GROVE_TROLL]

We're gonna beat the puppies and honestly we are probably the only team in the area that could play a close game with Gunter! 

[ShoelessJoe]

Hahahaha!!! There was a no way in the world you could play with Gunter.  You guys are having a great year, although your schedule is a little suspect.  But put the brakes on being able to play with Gunter.  Fletch still has nightmares from trying to stop them from his days in Leonard

[Pax]

By my count, Honey Grove is the only team left in the entire state of Texas - - - including all classifications - 1A thru 6A, and all private schools - - - that has STILL not given up a single point all season.  Grand total allowed : ZERO.  Not sure why we are skipping ahead week here to the Cooper game, but going by the numbers as they stand today, I get a 40-0 Honey Grove win.  I actually have Cooper getting a few points, but I'm sticking with zero to keep the trend alive!  This is REALLY impressive.  It's hard to get this deep into the season without giving up ANYTHING - even if you have the weakest schedule in the state.  It's pretty insane.  Either way, if nothing else, Honey Grove will be the very last team in the entire state of Texas across all classifications - public and private - to allow their opponent to score.  They are the last team standing with a big fat zero in the "points allowed" column.  Just impressive.  By my count, including all 11-man and 6-man classifications, public and private, there are 1,501 high school football teams in the state of Texas.  1,500 of them have allowed points.  Honey Grove has not.

Cooper will be coming in with the highest-scoring offense HG has faced, so it's possible they give up their first points of the season in this one.  Alba-Golden was the highest scoring offense with 42.7 per game, and Honey Grove held them to......let me check my notes.....ah right.  ZERO.  Cooper is coming in averaging 45.3 per game.  I'll be following this one.   

Edited October 10, 2023 by Pax

[TigerBlue09]

As they should with that weak schedule!! Who is Howe, Whitewright, Bowie, Alba Golden, Rivercrest

[blueflu]

terrible schedule

[KirtFalcon]

Cooper brings Honey Nut back to reality ....

Cooper  .................. 38

Honey Nut Cherios ... 24

Edited October 11, 2023 by KirtFalcon
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[GraysonFan]

11 hours ago, GROVE_TROLL said:

We're gonna beat the puppies and honestly we are probably the only team in the area that could play a close game with Gunter! 

HG wouldn’t stay within 50 points of Gunter.

[GraysonFan]

3 hours ago, TigerBlue09 said:

As they should with that weak schedule!! Who is Howe, Whitewright, Bowie, Alba Golden, Rivercrest

I don’t know about the others but Howe and Whitewright field teams that are the equivalent of JV teams for most schools.  

[FUMUNDA]

If you like defense. This is the game to attend!

No losers in this one. Just who makes the fewest mistakes. 

[WestCoastO]

Cooper wins and HG gives up there first points of the season.

[Gobstopper77]

On 10/10/2023 at 8:52 AM, GROVE_TROLL said:

We're gonna beat the puppies and honestly we are probably the only team in the area that could play a close game with Gunter! 

Your name is fitting. That's HIGHlarious. 

[WestCoastO]

On 10/10/2023 at 8:52 AM, GROVE_TROLL said:

We're gonna beat the puppies and honestly we are probably the only team in the area that could play a close game with Gunter! 

I guess you've moved on from your opinion of HG being able to beat Timpson?

[Cannon85]

18 minutes ago, WestCoastO said:

I guess you've moved on from your opinion of HG being able to beat Timpson?

Will they see Timpson if they come in second in district? If so they lose to both! 35-18 Cooper.

[ShoelessJoe]

22 hours ago, Pax said:

By my count, Honey Grove is the only team left in the entire state of Texas - - - including all classifications - 1A thru 6A, and all private schools - - - that has STILL not given up a single point all season.  Grand total allowed : ZERO.  Not sure why we are skipping ahead week here to the Cooper game, but going by the numbers as they stand today, I get a 40-0 Honey Grove win.  I actually have Cooper getting a few points, but I'm sticking with zero to keep the trend alive!  This is REALLY impressive.  It's hard to get this deep into the season without giving up ANYTHING - even if you have the weakest schedule in the state.  It's pretty insane.  Either way, if nothing else, Honey Grove will be the very last team in the entire state of Texas across all classifications - public and private - to allow their opponent to score.  They are the last team standing with a big fat zero in the "points allowed" column.  Just impressive.  By my count, including all 11-man and 6-man classifications, public and private, there are 1,501 high school football teams in the state of Texas.  1,500 of them have allowed points.  Honey Grove has not.

Cooper will be coming in with the highest-scoring offense HG has faced, so it's possible they give up their first points of the season in this one.  Alba-Golden was the highest scoring offense with 42.7 per game, and Honey Grove held them to......let me check my notes.....ah right.  ZERO.  Cooper is coming in averaging 45.3 per game.  I'll be following this one.   

 

[ShoelessJoe]

Pax, I’ve always liked reading your predictions in the past.  But picking HG 40-0???  I realize HG has t allowed a lot t, but let’s be realistic and look at their schedule.  Cooper may not be the team they were last year, and HG HS gotten way better, but I’m taking the bulldogs.  Fletch will have nightmares all week about how to stop Cooper since they run the Gunter offense.  And we all know how that worked out for him in Leonard his last few years.

[WestCoastO]

29 minutes ago, Cannon85 said:

Will they see Timpson if they come in second in district? If so they lose to both! 35-18 Cooper.

I was just referencing the topic from last week where he was saying they were on Timpson's level.

[Bulldognation1]

1 hour ago, WestCoastO said:

I guess you've moved on from your opinion of HG being able to beat Timpson?

They’ll be calling out Franklin next

[Cannon85]

 

15 minutes ago, Bulldognation1 said:

They’ll be calling out Franklin next

Naw, shoot for the top....they can beat Duncanville....blahaha

[Pax]

5 hours ago, ShoelessJoe said:

Pax, I’ve always liked reading your predictions in the past.  But picking HG 40-0???  I realize HG has t allowed a lot t, but let’s be realistic and look at their schedule.  Cooper may not be the team they were last year, and HG HS gotten way better, but I’m taking the bulldogs.  Fletch will have nightmares all week about how to stop Cooper since they run the Gunter offense.  And we all know how that worked out for him in Leonard his last few years.

I don't actually put any personal feelings into these predictions, and of course there are nuances that aren't picked up by my method.  My predictions are pure math, and 40-0 is what comes out when I put in the numbers.  Many times, I'll put in the numbers - and what comes out contradicts what my gut says.

Still, I can't help but be impressed with a team that has played 5 games and has yet to give up a single point.  I think there's something to be said about that.  As far as strength of schedule is concerned, according to Pigskin, the average rating of Cooper opponents is about 115.  HG opponents are at 106.  So, on average, Cooper's opponents are only about 9 points better than Honey Grove opponents.  When the range between the worst team in 2AD1 (71 per Pigskin) and the best team in 2AD1 (158 per Pigskin) is 87 points, 9 points is not much.  In other words, it's not like Honey Grove has been playing trash while Cooper has been playing the cream of the crop.  Their opponents are more or less comparable. 

Either way, it is really hard to play five full games and not give up a point.  Like I said, they are the ONLY team in the entire state of Texas across all classifications - public or private - that have yet to give up a point.  I'm sure we can agree that there are plenty of teams out there that have FAR weaker schedules.  Over 1,500 teams and only 1 hasn't given up a point.  They certainly don't have the weakest schedule in the entire state of Texas across all classifications - or anywhere near it.  Almost certainly some luck - - because no matter how dominant your defense is, the bottom line is it's hard to play 240 minutes of football and give up a grand total of zero points.  Even if it's just a fluke - - it's still something worth mentioning in my opinion.  I'm not crowning them with anything; I'm just appreciating the feat. 

Let me put it this way - - the average number of points given up for the season by the number one ranked defense (for points allowed) in each classification in Texas is 33.4 points.  That's the total points allowed by the NUMBER ONE defense in each or their respective classes.  Honey Grove has allowed zero.

I don't know what Honey Grove is gonna do in the playoffs.  I'm just interested because their situation is interesting to me; that being the only team left out of 1500+ that hasn't allowed a point all year.  I think it merits a follow.  That's all.

Edited October 11, 2023 by Pax

[KirtFalcon]

42 minutes ago, Pax said:

I don't actually put any personal feelings into these predictions, and of course there are nuances that aren't picked up by my method.  My predictions are pure math, and 40-0 is what comes out when I put in the numbers.  Many times, I'll put in the numbers - and what comes out contradicts what my gut says.

Still, I can't help but be impressed with a team that has played 5 games and has yet to give up a single point.  I think there's something to be said about that.  As far as strength of schedule is concerned, according to Pigskin, the average rating of Cooper opponents is about 115.  HG opponents are at 106.  So, on average, Cooper's opponents are only about 9 points better than Honey Grove opponents.  When the range between the worst team in 2AD1 (71 per Pigskin) and the best team in 2AD1 (158 per Pigskin) is 87 points, 9 points is not much.  In other words, it's not like Honey Grove has been playing trash while Cooper has been playing the cream of the crop.  Their opponents are more or less comparable. 

Either way, it is really hard to play five full games and not give up a point.  Like I said, they are the ONLY team in the entire state of Texas across all classifications - public or private - that have yet to give up a point.  I'm sure we can agree that there are plenty of teams out there that have FAR weaker schedules.  Over 1,500 teams and only 1 hasn't given up a point.  They certainly don't have the weakest schedule in the entire state of Texas across all classifications - or anywhere near it.  Almost certainly some luck - - because no matter how dominant your defense is, the bottom line is it's hard to play 240 minutes of football and give up a grand total of zero points.  Even if it's just a fluke - - it's still something worth mentioning in my opinion.  I'm not crowning them with anything; I'm just appreciating the feat. 

Let me put it this way - - the average number of points given up for the season by the number one ranked defense (for points allowed) in each classification in Texas is 33.4 points.  That's the total points allowed by the NUMBER ONE defense in each or their respective classes.  Honey Grove has allowed zero.

I don't know what Honey Grove is gonna do in the playoffs.  I'm just interested because their situation is interesting to me; that being the only team left out of 1500+ that hasn't allowed a point all year.  I think it merits a follow.  That's all.

Garrison has scored 371 points and has given up 66 .... Most of those 66 points were scored against our 2nd stringers ....  If we had played Honey Groves schedule, I'd wager we could have pitched a shut out as well looking at their schedule ....  I don't know that HG would be undefeated if they had played our schedule ....

 

[Cannon85]

47 minutes ago, Pax said:

I don't actually put any personal feelings into these predictions, and of course there are nuances that aren't picked up by my method.  My predictions are pure math, and 40-0 is what comes out when I put in the numbers.  Many times, I'll put in the numbers - and what comes out contradicts what my gut says.

Still, I can't help but be impressed with a team that has played 5 games and has yet to give up a single point.  I think there's something to be said about that.  As far as strength of schedule is concerned, according to Pigskin, the average rating of Cooper opponents is about 115.  HG opponents are at 106.  So, on average, Cooper's opponents are only about 9 points better than Honey Grove opponents.  When the range between the worst team in 2AD1 (71 per Pigskin) and the best team in 2AD1 (158 per Pigskin) is 87 points, 9 points is not much.  In other words, it's not like Honey Grove has been playing trash while Cooper has been playing the cream of the crop.  Their opponents are more or less comparable. 

Either way, it is really hard to play five full games and not give up a point.  Like I said, they are the ONLY team in the entire state of Texas across all classifications - public or private - that have yet to give up a point.  I'm sure we can agree that there are plenty of teams out there that have FAR weaker schedules.  Over 1,500 teams and only 1 hasn't given up a point.  They certainly don't have the weakest schedule in the entire state of Texas across all classifications - or anywhere near it.  Almost certainly some luck - - because no matter how dominant your defense is, the bottom line is it's hard to play 240 minutes of football and give up a grand total of zero points.  Even if it's just a fluke - - it's still something worth mentioning in my opinion.  I'm not crowning them with anything; I'm just appreciating the feat. 

Let me put it this way - - the average number of points given up for the season by the number one ranked defense (for points allowed) in each classification in Texas is 33.4 points.  That's the total points allowed by the NUMBER ONE defense in each or their respective classes.  Honey Grove has allowed zero.

I don't know what Honey Grove is gonna do in the playoffs.  I'm just interested because their situation is interesting to me; that being the only team left out of 1500+ that hasn't allowed a point all year.  I think it merits a follow.  That's all.

Compare Hooks or Collinsville to anyone HG has played. They haven't played anyone with a winning record. Giving up zero points is an amazing feat this far into the season but that will end next Friday.