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Looks like Astros will be much stronger in 2023 IF IF IF the SP holds up.  The regular addition alone of Diaz elevates the offense tremendously while it is hard to imagine Pena & Abreau at 1st not having better years. 
Barring injuries only the starting pitchers can let this team fall.  That is NOT a prediction of winning the West or getting to the ALCS again.  Just the fact that on paper this should be a MUCH better team.

IMO the only real need is a starter/long reliever inning eater to have available.  Lot of innings lost with Maton/Stanyk/Nerris gone.   I would have liked to have kept Maton personally.

 

 

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13 hours ago, THSfanatic said:

Looks like Astros will be much stronger in 2023 IF IF IF the SP holds up.  The regular addition alone of Diaz elevates the offense tremendously while it is hard to imagine Pena & Abreau at 1st not having better years. 
Barring injuries only the starting pitchers can let this team fall.  That is NOT a prediction of winning the West or getting to the ALCS again.  Just the fact that on paper this should be a MUCH better team.

IMO the only real need is a starter/long reliever inning eater to have available.  Lot of innings lost with Maton/Stanyk/Nerris gone.   I would have liked to have kept Maton personally.

 

 

I agree with you...especially on Maton!

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On 2/7/2024 at 7:16 PM, THSfanatic said:

I don’t get the Astros not agreeing to what he asked for in the first place 

They should have just paid him, but Crane is very cautious with his money. Not afraid to spend it, but afraid to overspend. 

The theory I got from 610 is what is more concerning. Giving Hader the big contract, while it puts them above the competitive tax threshold, it also signals they may not be willing to pay Tucker and Bregman the money required to keep them. Talk from both sides doesn't sound promising on Bregman. Who knows with Tucker...

They better have a GOOD backup plan in place for either of them if they plan on allowing them to walk. Not a lot of bodies in the minor league system that can replace that kind of production...

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Astros GM Dana Brown said he told Scott Boras the team will offer Bregman an extension.

"There's really not a timeline on this right now, and at some point, we'll make an offer," Brown said. "I think we both respect that and that's pretty much the conversation (we had). We love Alex. We'd love to have him here."

Bregman is entering the final season of a five-year $100 million extension he signed before the start of the 2019 season. 

The two-time All-Star finished 2023 with a .262/.363/.441 slash line in 161 games and was a finalist for the American League Gold Glove at third base.

"We know he good he is and how good he's been for this franchise," Brown said. "It would be tough to look out at third base and not see that elite defense."

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On 2/9/2024 at 9:21 AM, topher805 said:

They should have just paid him, but Crane is very cautious with his money. Not afraid to spend it, but afraid to overspend. 

The theory I got from 610 is what is more concerning. Giving Hader the big contract, while it puts them above the competitive tax threshold, it also signals they may not be willing to pay Tucker and Bregman the money required to keep them. Talk from both sides doesn't sound promising on Bregman. Who knows with Tucker...

They better have a GOOD backup plan in place for either of them if they plan on allowing them to walk. Not a lot of bodies in the minor league system that can replace that kind of production...

Bregman may be my favorite player on the team......but I'm not sure he is going to be worth what he will bring.  Tucker on the other hand IMO will be the key.  If he leaves I can see this team falling completely apart. He is a MUST in my opinion but I think they have already lost valuable trust with him by not renegotiating earlier.

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21 hours ago, THSfanatic said:

Bregman may be my favorite player on the team......but I'm not sure he is going to be worth what he will bring.  Tucker on the other hand IMO will be the key.  If he leaves I can see this team falling completely apart. He is a MUST in my opinion but I think they have already lost valuable trust with him by not renegotiating earlier.

The Astros are starting to get the reputation as a team that doesn't necessarily negotiate and operate in good faith. Apparently, Springers decision to leave was in large part to the Astros delaying his years of service. He understood it was a business decision, but it definitely played a role for him. He also still has the ear of a lot of guys in the locker room...

Negotiations with Tucker are definitely off to a bad start. Failing to renegotiate, going to arbitration last year, the organization isn't doing themselves any favors right now. Hopefully they can right the ship and keep him around. Him and Alvarez are two guys they have to build around...

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