bansheefan03 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 minute ago, PantherNation2015 said: You are assuming Carthage OT #50 can’t block #5 head up? Or OT #71 with a back or TE support can’t get it done vs #5 or #18? And maybe the reason Carthage hasn’t run the ball like year’s past is because they wanted to get the Soph QB more pass attempts to acclimate to the speed and pressure of varsity. The Dawgs can and will run the ball with force when asked to. Fri may be the coming out party. And you do realize Matlock has been playing since District right? He’s not 100% but has been a nice change of pace for Edwards. Carthage also has a couple more backs that can shoulder the load of a heavy ground attack if needed. He tweaked that hurt knee again last game don't know if he will be able to go this week or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BevBrownJr Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 49 minutes ago, Cleareyesopenheartcantlose said: If PG does what they normally do defensively then Carthage will have to go to shorter choice routes, with that being said it depends if Carthage decides rather to double team #5 or not. They typically have him rush wide forcing QBs to step up and another guy is coming. I just feel Carthage hasn’t run the ball effectively as they have in seasons passed, also it will be interesting to see how losing Matlock affects things. I know they did a lot without him. But you cannot deny the fact when he is in there have been a lot of big plays with him, through the air and on the ground. Ask Kilgore about the effectiveness of Carthage’s run game this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleareyesopenheartcantlose Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, cowboyandchrist said: The Dawgs ran 8 running backs against LE. KJ Edwards just got an offer from Georgia to go with a long list of offers. Only a sophomore. Running game is just fine behind a very powerful O line. I mean if we are being realistic here, that was against a very non existence run defense of LE. Thats great for KJ, great humble kid and even better family. Just saying what I have seen thus far. Not saying it cannot happen. But so far it has been iffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, bansheefan03 said: He tweaked that hurt knee again last game don't know if he will be able to go this week or not I saw that but had not heard an update. Either way, Carthage run game will be fine Fri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleareyesopenheartcantlose Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Just now, BevBrownJr said: Ask Kilgore about the effectiveness of Carthage’s run game this year. I can give you that game 100%, and agree. but also 1st game of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleareyesopenheartcantlose Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 minute ago, PantherNation2015 said: I saw that but had not heard an update. Either way, Carthage run game will be fine Fri. Didn’t look good, and hate it for him. That kid is a special kind of talent. Him and Edwards in the backfield is like having a human cheat code lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cleareyesopenheartcantlose said: I can give you that game 100%, and agree. but also 1st game of the season. Carthage could have run the ball every play in every game and still won by same margins barring injury. But that does nothing for the Soph QB and his development. The first 12 games were to get him prepared for the 1-2 games Carthage will need him to have a big game throwing the ball. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleareyesopenheartcantlose Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Just now, PantherNation2015 said: Carthage could have run the ball every play in every game and still won by same margins barring injury. But that does nothing for the Soph QB and his development. The first 12 games were to get him prepared for the 1-2 games Carthage will need him to have a big game throwing the ball. 100% agree with developing him. Just saying when they have needed to run the ball it has not been like years past. It is obvious what they have been doing and I would do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefan03 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) Only time I have really seen them want to run the ball was 1st possession of second half of van game they came out and ran the ball every play for a td last year they didn't really run it all that great or much but then came out and pounded pg was actually the first game for them to show it Edited November 19, 2023 by bansheefan03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cleareyesopenheartcantlose said: 100% agree with developing him. Just saying when they have needed to run the ball it has not been like years past. It is obvious what they have been doing and I would do the same. When they need it, it will be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefan03 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Game last year against pg was a point to go out and show everyone who the most powerful and physical team was I'm sure will be the emphasis this year too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleareyesopenheartcantlose Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, bansheefan03 said: Only time I have really seen them want to run the ball was 1st possession of second half of van game they came out and ran the ball every play for a td last year they didn't really run it all that great or much but then came out and pounded pg was actually the first game for them to show it Very true. Talk about a physical game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotton84 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 I know Little B doesn’t want kids playing both ways, but if he wants another really good offensive lineman with size to block a few plays here and there, he has a defensive lineman that can. And on the reverse side, he has two big offensive linemen that would be good to really good on defense that have not played defense in 2 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyandchrist Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 hour ago, BevBrownJr said: Ask Kilgore about the effectiveness of Carthage’s run game this year. I will add the other 220 pound back that has not been stopped when in the game. Also a sophomore that ran for 1500 hundred yards last year as a freshman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99probs Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 I was just told PG's Center, #59, is out for this game. I believe he went out 3rd quarter against Caddo Mills with a knee injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion7000 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 I still think this is the best game. I just hope it is a great game and see Carthage lose for once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, 99probs said: I was just told PG's Center, #59, is out for this game. I believe he went out 3rd quarter against Caddo Mills with a knee injury. That’s a tough blow for PG (if true) since most have said the PG OL was one of the question marks coming into this game vs Carthage. Will be interesting to see what adjustments are made. Whoever gets the nod will be starring down a 300+ lb DT every snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkahootz Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 This is about as evenly matched as 2 teams can be. I think Carthage will win. Even if they go into overtime Carthage will win and here's why. They have since 2008 the 9 state titles wow factor. It has nothing to do with luck, horse shoes or voodoo dolls. They just find a way to win. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwolf Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Carthage is going to win this game. If Carthage doesn't make a ton of mistakes early and gets in rhythm, I think Carthage wins by 17+. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackShirtD Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 54 minutes ago, PantherNation2015 said: That’s a tough blow for PG (if true) since most have said the PG OL was one of the question marks coming into this game vs Carthage. Will be interesting to see what adjustments are made. Whoever gets the nod will be starring down a 300+ lb DT every snap. And he is quick as a cat and extremely strong. If the center is out it’s gonna be trouble for the back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastTexasKnowItAll Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Coaching matters. Don’t get your drawers in a bunch, PG fans. But impassioned pleas and phony tears only take you so far. Talent. Depth. Coaching. All go to Carthage in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotton84 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, BlackShirtD said: And he is quick as a cat and extremely strong. If the center is out it’s gonna be trouble for the back up. If Carthage uses 3 down lineman with a nose, the one that will play nose(probably) is not that quick, but is the strongest guy that will be on the field - Kilgore double teamed him a lot the last two years and I don’t think they ever moved him back…….The other 300+ that will probably be over the tackle is definitely quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, cotton84 said: If Carthage uses 3 down lineman with a nose, the one that will play nose(probably) is not that quick, but is the strongest guy that will be on the field - Kilgore double teamed him a lot the last two years and I don’t think they ever moved him back…….The other 300+ that will probably be over the tackle is definitely quick. And is a mismatch one on one vs a 190 lb OT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsjustfootball Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Cleareyesopenheartcantlose said: I can give you that game 100%, and agree. but also 1st game of the season. exactly first game of the season where a lot of Carthage starts took their first varsity snaps. They have only improved every week. You can go ahead and say you don't think Carthage is good enough. Many others have been brave enough to say it. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineman1988 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 hours ago, bansheefan03 said: Where did the Jackson kids transfer from? Moved from Gilmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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