THEHARDWAY Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Two teams that have no history meeting each other……. Can we get a poll? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtonres7586 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 This game is gonna be a barn burner in my estimation. Gunter will no doubt be the favorite, but Canadian looks legitimate. This Canadian team looks like the 2017-18 team. Their Qb looks just like The Cavalier kid at quarterback. He will run hard and knock your head off in the process. I will pay to watch this one. How about ya’ll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Gunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDWAY Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Newtonres7586 said: This game is gonna be a barn burner in my estimation. Gunter will no doubt be the favorite, but Canadian looks legitimate. This Canadian team looks like the 2017-18 team. Their Qb looks just like The Cavalier kid at quarterback. He will run hard and knock your head off in the process. I will pay to watch this one. How about ya’ll. Funny you say that, as it’s his little brother. He is not as big, but is a much better passer and much more elusive. Should be a good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtonres7586 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, THEHARDWAY said: Funny you say that, as it’s his little brother. He is not as big, but is a much better passer and much more elusive. Should be a good one! Sorry about the duel topics, I looked for one but didn’t find it. I have watched him on a couple games, and was impressed. Gunter gonna be hard to beat. They can beat teams by sheer numbers, and talent. They have 56 kids on their roster, and can substitute freely W/O a let down in talent. I’m pulling for the Wildcats. Been a fan because your long time coach who is a sweetheart of a man. Can’t remember his name. I understand ya’ll have a new coach now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDWAY Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Newtonres7586 said: Sorry about the duel topics, I looked for one but didn’t find it. I have watched him on a couple games, and was impressed. Gunter gonna be hard to beat. They can beat teams by sheer numbers, and talent. They have 56 kids on their roster, and can substitute freely W/O a let down in talent. I’m pulling for the Wildcats. Been a fan because your long time coach who is a sweetheart of a man. Can’t remember his name. I understand ya’ll have a new coach now. No worries man! Coach Koetting. Great man, had to step away due to health. Our longtime DC Coach Cavalier took over as HC. GT can be beat. Jacksboro exposed a few things, and Canadian O is much more explosive. I think it will be a fun one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtonres7586 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, THEHARDWAY said: No worries man! Coach Koetting. Great man, had to step away due to health. Our longtime DC Coach Cavalier took over as HC. GT can be beat. Jacksboro exposed a few things, and Canadian O is much more explosive. I think it will be a fun one! You are so right on Jacksboro exposing. I haven’t seen the replay yet, but I gave Jacksboro a chance to win. I watched a couple Gunter games an figured they could be beat. I’ll be watching on Nfhsn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastTxFinest Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I think Canadian gets it done. This should be a epic battle!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkball7 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Jacksboro sure gave Gunter some fits last night. I think the Jboro offense is more intricate in the passing game but the Jboro QB reminded me of Cavalier. Biggest positive for Canadian is that they actually have a defense. GT just doesn't have the stud RB like years past, instead relying on Overman and a bevy of WR's that will play in the backfield. Two great teams and staffs, winner heads to Arlington and claims another title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfield68,83,85,08,09,10 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I honestly think Canadian will win. But I want Gunter too win because of we can make it to state I want us to be the ones to knock em off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAlumnus Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Hawkball7 said: Jacksboro sure gave Gunter some fits last night. I think the Jboro offense is more intricate in the passing game but the Jboro QB reminded me of Cavalier. Biggest positive for Canadian is that they actually have a defense. GT just doesn't have the stud RB like years past, instead relying on Overman and a bevy of WR's that will play in the backfield. Two great teams and staffs, winner heads to Arlington and claims another title. Who was stud running back for the 2019 and 2022 championship teams? Gunter has somwhow put up 845 points this year. Another way to put it is that we don depend on one stud running back. The ball gets spread around, by design. The QB had over 200 yards because that is how the option read. He is a stud though, all 145 pounds. Edited December 3, 2023 by GTAlumnus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkball7 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, GTAlumnus said: Who was stud running back for the 2019 and 2022 championship teams? Gunter has somwhow put up 845 points this year. Another way to put it is that we don depend on one stud running back. The ball gets spread around, by design. The QB had over 200 yards because that is how the option read. He is a stud though, all 145 pounds. PLowe in 2019 & the Sloan/Hellman combo last year. I agree with your sentiment about spreading the ball but have felt all year they lack the big play RB. Actually think this year is a shootout unlike last years defensive game tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDWAY Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, GTAlumnus said: Who was stud running back for the 2019 and 2022 championship teams? Gunter has somwhow put up 845 points this year. Another way to put it is that we don depend on one stud running back. The ball gets spread around, by design. The QB had over 200 yards because that is how the option read. He is a stud though, all 145 pounds. 2022 y’all had Bennet. He was a stud and game changer on offense and defense. Also Hellman at Flex that was a stud. Not arguing with you, just saying y’all did have some dudes last year. Edited December 3, 2023 by THEHARDWAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyMoney Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 This should be the State Final. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAlumnus Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, THEHARDWAY said: 2022 y’all had Bennet. He was a stud and game changer on offense and defense. Also Hellman at Flex that was a stud. Not arguing with you, just saying y’all did have some dudes last year. Of course you are right about Bennett and Hellman. And Lowe befor that. I really mean we don't typically have gaudy stats from the RB position but there have been some huge game changing plays from that position. You probably remember more details about Gunter than I do and I hardly miss a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAlumnus Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 39 minutes ago, Hawkball7 said: PLowe in 2019 & the Sloan/Hellman combo last year. I agree with your sentiment about spreading the ball but have felt all year they lack the big play RB. Actually think this year is a shootout unlike last years defensive game tho 2019 Clayton Reed was in the mix too infact was offense MVP of the state final. Sloan/Hellman ran a lot of plays from the slot /wing not always RK per se. No doubt we lost some great impact players off of last yeart's team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUSTANGS07 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Canadian by 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAlumnus Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Gunter will be favored by the computer rankings but many will favor Canadian because they lost by 1 point last year and Gunter lost more from gruduation. Despite the losses Gunter has been great in all 3 phases. The Jacksboro game because we didn't shut them down as we have every team we played looks like chinks on Gunter's armor. i saw Jacksboro and they executed very well on offense for a half, The second half we gave up 6. I give them some credit - they are probably the 2nd or 3rd best team we played. Add better defense and they would have been very dangerous. At no point did i think they would ever stop Gunter which they did not. But I was pretty sure Gunter will stop the bleeding and pull away, which they did. i look for a battle (again) in Ablilene. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDWAY Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 @Pax please don’t make us wait all week! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogpatrol Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Canadian and Gunter always legit. give e a second flip a coin. Gunter must play without mistaakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtonres7586 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 9 hours ago, THEHARDWAY said: @Pax please don’t make us wait all week! I second that motion Mr. speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerBlue09 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 What does the 3 letters in the back stand for? Tpw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUSTANGS07 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, TigerBlue09 said: What does the 3 letters in the back stand for? Tpw Tough People Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerBlue09 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, MUSTANGS07 said: Tough People Win Oh lol I was way off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) Ok, so just for the heck of it, I went back and looked at all my Gunter vs Canadian predictions. Not in depth, but just the overall prediction. It's pretty incredible we have built up quite a history in such a short amount of time - especially considering you have to make it to the state semi-final for this game to happen. YEAR PREDICTION ACTUAL 2016 24-21 Gunter 44-34 Gunter 2017 37-31 Gunter 56-27 Gunter 2018 35-33 Gunter 17-7 Canadian 2019 33-27 Canadian 27-20 Gunter 2020 43-28 Canadian 33-6 Canadian 2022 39-32 Gunter 21-20 Gunter I got the winner right 4 out of 6 times, so basically just a game over .500. A lot of those games could have gone either way, so let's just say I flip a coin and throw numbers out there and pretend to know what I'm doing. There have only really been two convincing wins I'd say. The 2017 56-27 Gunter win (I believe they got out to a 35-7 lead and sort of traded scores from there on out. The other convincing win was the 2020 33-6 Canadian win (the only Canadian/Gunter game I've missed - I watched a stream I'm pretty sure). Overall, Gunter has the slight edge in average points per matchup - - outscoring Canadian by an average of 25-23. After this week's game, Gunter and Canadian will have played 70% of a regular season's worth of state semifinal games in 8 years. We've only missed playing once in the semifinal game in that span. Anyway, in this one - considering all games played : Gunter is averaging 60.4 ppg against defenses that allow 30.5 on average (29.9 more). Gunter is holding teams that score 34.7 on average to 6.8 per game (27.9 fewer) for a total swing of +57.8. Canadian is averaging 60.6 ppg against defenses that allow 26.9 on average (33.8 more). Canadian is holding teams that score 29.4 on average to 14.2 per game (15.2 fewer) for a total swing of +49.0. Based on this, I get a 45-37 Gunter win. Taking Gunter's best 3 "swing" games vs Canadian's 3 best, I get a Gunter 59-40 win. Taking each teams worst swing games, I get a Canadian 35-32 win. Gunter's best 3 vs Canadian's worst 3, and I get 59-24 Gunter. Canadian's 3 best vs Gunter's 3 worst, and I get 51-32 Canadian. Considering only district and playoff games, I get Gunter in a 48-37 win. Considering only playoff games, I get Gunter in a 48-39 win. Only considering games by each team against opponents who allow fewer than 24 points per game, I get 49-33 Gunter. Only considering games by each team against opponents who score more than 35 per game, I get 47-26 Gunter. Overall average of all these arbitrary ways of looking at this game and cherry-picking this or that, and you end up in basically the same place as you would just considering the whole season for both teams. I'm going to take Gunter in this one, 45-35, but because I don't know if this matchup will ever happen again, I'm going 44-34. Perhaps ending it like we started it. There's a chance Canadian moves down and Gunter moves up. I guess it depends on where they draw the new lines, but this incredible run by both teams - all these state semifinal matchups - could be coming to an end. Though, I've heard Canadian might be staying up one more cycle. Can't remember who I heard that from. Or we might already know. I've been looking at so many different things, I've probably confused myself. Either way - good luck to both teams. I expect another good one. Side note, according to Pigskin, in all of 11-man football (2A-6A), Gunter is #1 in average margin of victory. Canadian is #3. Edited December 4, 2023 by Pax 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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