H3llR4z0r Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Valhalla said: I think the ACC and Big 12 are pretty equal. You may actually be on to something. I actually give the Big 12 the upper hand, but it's a little closer than I anticipated. The bottom of the Big 12 is pretty rough. I still feel like the Big 12 has 5 of the 8 better teams in each conference, if not 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Boy TCU has had a fall from grace. Been there done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 hours ago, H3llR4z0r said: Yeah but you can be a 4th seed and get in the playoffs here. You don't have to win district. 1st place seeds get knocked out all the time because they play in weak districts. ACC is weak. It's the weakest P5 this season by a margin. Yeah keep believing that, considering they beat the SEC more times this year. And the Big 12 also had a winning record against the SEC.....but to you that doesn't matter, because you seem to think that the ACC is weak, tell that to all the schools that lost to them......SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, DannyZuco said: Yeah keep believing that, considering they beat the SEC more times this year. And the Big 12 also had a winning record against the SEC.....but to you that doesn't matter, because you seem to think that the ACC is weak, tell that to all the schools that lost to them......SMH Did they beat Alabama or Georgia? We claim FSU's credible win is LSU, well LSU isn't even the best team in the SEC, not even top 4. The ACC went 6-4 against the SEC, with 5 of those wins coming from bottom feeders this season. The combined record of those 5 teams was 26-34. FSU beat the 5th best team in the conference and that's supposed to be massive. Edited December 6, 2023 by H3llR4z0r 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 15 hours ago, H3llR4z0r said: Did they beat Alabama or Georgia? We claim FSU's credible win is LSU, well LSU isn't even the best team in the SEC, not even top 4. The ACC went 6-4 against the SEC, with 5 of those wins coming from bottom feeders this season. The combined record of those 5 teams was 26-34. FSU beat the 5th best team in the conference and that's supposed to be massive. FSU 45-24 LSU (21) Bama 42-28 LSU (14) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, tbird9100 said: FSU 45-24 LSU (21) Bama 42-28 LSU (14) LSU - BAMA is a huge rivalry game. Comparing like opponent scores is elementary stuff. Edited December 7, 2023 by H3llR4z0r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Team Title Odds Michigan +170 Alabama +190 Texas +310 Washington +700 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
514 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, H3llR4z0r said: Team Title Odds Michigan +170 Alabama +190 Texas +310 Washington +700 Was waiting for some post to finally be about the four that got in instead of the one that did not. I wonder why Washington does not get credit from the odds makers this season. They were the underdogs in both Oregon games and now on the bottom of the teams odd to win the NCCA Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, 514 said: Was waiting for some post to finally be about the four that got in instead of the one that did not. I wonder why Washington does not get credit from the odds makers this season. They were the underdogs in both Oregon games and now on the bottom of the teams odd to win the NCCA Championship. Enough of talking about those 4 teams, now... Florida State... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coach Rab Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, 514 said: Was waiting for some post to finally be about the four that got in instead of the one that did not. I wonder why Washington does not get credit from the odds makers this season. They were the underdogs in both Oregon games and now on the bottom of the teams odd to win the NCCA Championship. All 3 teams are playing better than Washington right now. I don't think the odds are counting them out, I think they are just not in their favor of winning 2 games vs these 4 teams as much as they are for the other 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Alabama will roll Michigan. Texas and Washington will be a very good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coach Rab Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 I am glad the NCAA doesn’t decide this award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trueblue82 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 8:23 PM, Coach Rab said: Congrats to him. Very well deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotton84 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) As a Texas fan, I would rather not play Bama in the finals - if we beat Washington……..thinking our chances are better against Mich. Who do Bama fans want in the finals ? Edited December 11, 2023 by cotton84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 8 hours ago, cotton84 said: As a Texas fan, I would rather play Bama in the finals - if we beat Washington……..thinking our chances are better against Mich. Who do Bama fans want in the finals ? If I was an Alabama fan then I would want a rematch with Texas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordertown Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 12/3/2023 at 4:54 PM, Valhalla said: What if Quinn Ewers tears his ACL in the first bowl practice? Do they sub in Georgia because Texas isn’t the same team they were all season? Interesting thought to take one step further. Assume Oklahoma is in the final four and Dillon Gabriel enters the transfer portal and leaves the team. Another scenario… USC is in final four and Williams opts out of the bowl games to prepare for the NFL. Ultimately, you have to live by the teams selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, bordertown said: Interesting thought to take one step further. Assume Oklahoma is in the final four and Dillon Gabriel enters the transfer portal and leaves the team. Another scenario… USC is in final four and Williams opts out of the bowl games to prepare for the NFL. Ultimately, you have to live by the teams selected. I can't speak for Caleb Williams, but if Oklahoma was in a meaningful bowl game then Gabriel would be playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted December 11, 2023 Author Share Posted December 11, 2023 12 hours ago, trueblue82 said: Congrats to him. Very well deserved. I heard a stat on the radio that would have made me reconsider my backing for him some. 40% of his touchdowns came against Army, Grambling, and Georgia State. So I had to go look it up. Here is the breakdown: Ga State- 413 passing, 6 TDs, 96 rushing, 2 TDs Army- 279 passing, 3 TDs, 6 rushing, 1 TD Grambling- 269 passing, 5 TDs, 29 rushing, 1 TD Top 3 opponents Florida State- 346 passing, 1 TD, 64 rushing, 0 TD Ole Miss- 414 passing, 4 TDs, 99 rushing, 1 TD Alabama- 219 passing, 2 TD, 163 rushing, 1 TD (shortened by a missed targeting vs Bama LB) But, then you look at Penix Jr. He had 4 TDs and 400 vs Tulsa, only 204 and 1 TD vs Washington State, and 275 no TD and 2 INTs vs Arizona State (these are their 3 worst opponents). Top 3 opponents Oregon Pt 1, 302 and 4 TD, Oregon Pt 2, 319 and 1 TD, and Oregon State 162 and 2 TDs, plus 22 rushing with 1 TD on the ground. People trying to make their case should see that what happened in the trash games, when compared side by side show that 1 guy dominated like he should have and the other didn't. Then, when you compare games vs the top opponents, both had great games in 2 of them, but 1 also had a great game with an injury while another was not impressive at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted December 11, 2023 Author Share Posted December 11, 2023 I believe this was the most research and mansplaning I've done since me and old @WETSU used to have it out when I would take my cheap shots at Aggies... and I am arguing against literally no one but myself lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, Coach Rab said: I heard a stat on the radio that would have made me reconsider my backing for him some. 40% of his touchdowns came against Army, Grambling, and Georgia State. So I had to go look it up. Here is the breakdown: Ga State- 413 passing, 6 TDs, 96 rushing, 2 TDs Army- 279 passing, 3 TDs, 6 rushing, 1 TD Grambling- 269 passing, 5 TDs, 29 rushing, 1 TD Top 3 opponents Florida State- 346 passing, 1 TD, 64 rushing, 0 TD Ole Miss- 414 passing, 4 TDs, 99 rushing, 1 TD Alabama- 219 passing, 2 TD, 163 rushing, 1 TD (shortened by a missed targeting vs Bama LB) But, then you look at Penix Jr. He had 4 TDs and 400 vs Tulsa, only 204 and 1 TD vs Washington State, and 275 no TD and 2 INTs vs Arizona State (these are their 3 worst opponents). Top 3 opponents Oregon Pt 1, 302 and 4 TD, Oregon Pt 2, 319 and 1 TD, and Oregon State 162 and 2 TDs, plus 22 rushing with 1 TD on the ground. People trying to make their case should see that what happened in the trash games, when compared side by side show that 1 guy dominated like he should have and the other didn't. Then, when you compare games vs the top opponents, both had great games in 2 of them, but 1 also had a great game with an injury while another was not impressive at all. Penix is also west coast, less coverage nationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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