Texas, Where We Force A Woman To Carry Her Baby To Term, With The Strongest Likelihood The Baby Won't Live And The Mother Won't Be Able To Have Another Child

[DAWG91]

2 hours ago, Monte1076 said:

So when do you think human life begins?

When the Lords in Black Robes say so.

[BarryLaverty]

Whatever willingness too many of you have to shunt aside THIS woman and her family's agonizing concerns is only revelatory about the disconnect the laws put into place aren't there for the health and wellness of the woman, not some great defense about abortion. The forced birth is more to you no matter the cost. That's not praiseworthy. 

[Monte1076]

10 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said:

Whatever willingness too many of you have to shunt aside THIS woman and her family's agonizing concerns is only revelatory about the disconnect the laws put into place aren't there for the health and wellness of the woman, not some great defense about abortion. The forced birth is more to you no matter the cost. That's not praiseworthy. 

There's the "holier than thou" Barry we know!

[BarryLaverty]

18 minutes ago, Monte1076 said:

There's the "holier than thou" Barry we know!

Not a tit-for-tat or competition, your endless, inane, insensitive quibbling aside. 

[DB2point0]

50 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said:

Whatever willingness too many of you have to shunt aside THIS woman and her family's agonizing concerns is only revelatory about the disconnect the laws put into place aren't there for the health and wellness of the woman, not some great defense about abortion. The forced birth is more to you no matter the cost. That's not praiseworthy. 

Science is something the left reveres.  Medical science has come a long ways.  Let the dr do a c-section and place the baby in a medical environment to give  the baby its best chance to survive and charge the woman for the care instead of for an abortion.  If it’s truly about her health they shouldn’t bat an eye.  The woman is saved, the baby gets its chance to live as well.  And the Left gets to tout science when the baby survives and wasn’t murdered.  

[BarryLaverty]

She left the state to get the procedure done. Twisted that she had to do so. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-woman-sought-abortion-court-order-leave-state-rcna129087

[Youngcoach123]

46 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said:

She left the state to get the procedure done. Twisted that she had to do so. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-woman-sought-abortion-court-order-leave-state-rcna129087

So the baby is alive at 20 weeks but has a terminal “diagnosis” and that’s why she wants to kill it prematurely? This is worst than I thought. If she goes to another state to do it and comes back, she should go to jail. She literally went to another state and killed someone cause Texas wouldn’t let her. Evil people.

[DannyZuco]

2 hours ago, Lion7000 said:

Like that matters. Law of the land is wrong no matter how you try to justify, rename, or deny it. The real Law taught by the scriptures is what matters . 

Sorry dude, we are not controlled by some religious state........we also have "freedom of religion"......which also means, I don't have to have a religion if I don't want one. So just because you have a belief, does NOT mean the rest of us do and that your god effects us. 

[DannyZuco]

4 hours ago, Monte1076 said:

So when do you think human life begins?

At this time, as far as I am concerned....life begins at birth, considering we celebrate "Birthdays", not conception day or heartbeat day. 

 

[DannyZuco]

2 hours ago, tbird9100 said:

It’s up to each State, not the SC.  

Abortion is up to each state, not "when life begins". And while Texas has outlawed abortions, I have yet to see anyone tried for murder because of it......let me know when that happens, so I can read up on the courtcase. 

[PepeSilvia]

2 hours ago, Lion7000 said:

Thank you so much for that truth. 

What truth?

[Lion7000]

8 minutes ago, DannyZuco said:

Sorry dude, we are not controlled by some religious state........we also have "freedom of religion"......which also means, I don't have to have a religion if I don't want one. So just because you have a belief, does NOT mean the rest of us do and that your god effects us. 

Doesn’t make it right just because you don’t have a conscience. Wrong is wrong no matter how much you lie to yourself. 

[RETIREDFAN1]

9 minutes ago, DannyZuco said:

Sorry dude, we are not controlled by some religious state........we also have "freedom of religion"......which also means, I don't have to have a religion if I don't want one. So just because you have a belief, does NOT mean the rest of us do and that your god effects us. 

You'll find out eventually......

[Lion7000]

2 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said:

What truth?

You are completely ignorant of it so no point in arguing with you. Bless your heart is all I can say.

[Lion7000]

Just now, RETIREDFAN1 said:

You'll find out eventually......

Exactly  

[PepeSilvia]

1 hour ago, tbird9100 said:

Science is something the left reveres.  Medical science has come a long ways.  Let the dr do a c-section and place the baby in a medical environment to give  the baby its best chance to survive and charge the woman for the care instead of for an abortion.  If it’s truly about her health they shouldn’t bat an eye.  The woman is saved, the baby gets its chance to live as well.  And the Left gets to tout science when the baby survives and wasn’t murdered.  

You do know what Trisomy 18 is don't you?  If you did then I would hope you wouldn't want a child who does survive the birth to suffer the way that they will for the few short days of their life before they die.

[PepeSilvia]

5 minutes ago, Lion7000 said:

Doesn’t make it right just because you don’t have a conscience. Wrong is wrong no matter how much you lie to yourself. 

You are correct.  The fact that you want these people to suffer for a political point is wrong no matter how much you lie to yourself.

[Monte1076]

14 minutes ago, DannyZuco said:

considering we celebrate "Birthdays"

 

Depends on the culture. Some cultures don't do "birthdays" on the day you were born. you simply turn a year older when the calendar turns over.

So in your mind it's not alive until it exits the body?

So when does death happen?

[Monte1076]

17 minutes ago, Youngcoach123 said:

So the baby is alive at 20 weeks but has a terminal “diagnosis” and that’s why she wants to kill it prematurely? This is worst than I thought. If she goes to another state to do it and comes back, she should go to jail. She literally went to another state and killed someone cause Texas wouldn’t let her. Evil people.

Hey, a judge in England ruled that a sick baby should basically be allowed to die (and basically made to die), even though the parents didn't want it to (because the baby could recover IIRC), and another country offered to take in the family and help the baby. True story. Saw it a couple of weeks ago. I can find it if necessary.

[PepeSilvia]

6 minutes ago, Lion7000 said:

You are completely ignorant of it so no point in arguing with you. Bless your heart is all I can say.

The truth is that ya'll are bringing religion into this claiming to be so holy and moral when the fact of the matter is that you could care less about how much others suffer.  You only care about making political points.  Again, if your god is so in favor of torturing these poor individuals then I want no part of that religion.  It's people like ya'll that are pushing people from god instead of what Christians should be doing and bringing them closer to god.

[Monte1076]

3 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said:

bringing them closer to god.

Is that what you do??

[Lion7000]

6 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said:

The truth is that ya'll are bringing religion into this claiming to be so holy and moral when the fact of the matter is that you could care less about how much others suffer.  You only care about making political points.  Again, if your god is so in favor of torturing these poor individuals then I want no part of that religion.  It's people like ya'll that are pushing people from god instead of what Christians should be doing and bringing them closer to god.

Religion has nothing to do with it. You are lost and clearly can’t comprehend. Jesus didn’t even care for the religious leaders because they were self righteous and hypocrites.

[Lion7000]

11 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said:

You are correct.  The fact that you want these people to suffer for a political point is wrong no matter how much you lie to yourself.

I don’t care for politics. I just won’t justify murdering anyone in a doctor office. 

[Lion7000]

27 minutes ago, DannyZuco said:

Abortion is up to each state, not "when life begins". And while Texas has outlawed abortions, I have yet to see anyone tried for murder because of it......let me know when that happens, so I can read up on the courtcase. 

Slavery used to be legal . Laws change for better. 

[Lion7000]

15 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said:

You do know what Trisomy 18 is don't you?  If you did then I would hope you wouldn't want a child who does survive the birth to suffer the way that they will for the few short days of their life before they die.

So playing God is your answer. Also 95% of abortions are for unwanted pregnancy. Rape, incest, is rare. Special needs kids have the right to live just like anyone else.