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28 minutes ago, Mavchamp said:

PG and THS could play at AHS to make it “neutral” for both.  And plenty of room for both. 

 

Yeah I thought about that but never been to that stadium. Good point.

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20 hours ago, Lion7000 said:

Yeah I thought about that but never been to that stadium. Good point.

7000+ if i had to guess, probably hasnt seen anywhere close to that many since the THS Ahs game has stopped. 

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11 hours ago, Tex85 said:

7000+ if i had to guess, probably hasnt seen anywhere close to that many since the THS Ahs game has stopped. 

It would make sense provided the schedule worked out with AHS or if played on a Thurs or Sat.   No way the game could be played at PG Stadium.   There just isn't any room for 1/3rd of the fans.

 

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9 minutes ago, budmanmpfan said:

Here ya go @Mavchamp

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Wow.  They really stepped up their non-district schedule.  No more 4-0 against the Sisters of the Poor or the Mankato School for the Blind. 

That’s a great schedule.  Good for WH. 

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On 3/16/2024 at 2:25 PM, Mavchamp said:

Interesting to see the non-district schedules

Jacksonville:
Center (7-4)
Brownsboro (5-5)
Henderson (2-8)
Athens (6-5)
 

The Indians have struggled mightily lately....so building a non-district schedule exclusively of 4A Div I and II schools could be the catalyst to getting some much needed wins.  But don't expect this to be a cakewalk for Jacksonville  Two of the four teams were playoff teams from last season and they will likely be the underdogs in at least 2 of the games.  It'll be interesting to see how they respond.  Will a (4-0) start mark a change in fortunes or will it simply be a big guy beating up on a little guy?  Will (0-4) signal a possible winless season?  And what would make J-ville fans happy... (2-2)?  (3-1)?  I think this was some smart scheduling on the park of the HFC.  This is what you need when you are trying to build up from square one.

Mount Pleasant
Crandall (6-4)
Lindale (7-5)
Terrell (7-4)
Sulphur Springs (8-3)

MP has pieced together a pretty solid non-district schedule IMHO.  All four games should be winnable for the Tigers...and they should all be really good tough games.  The Tigers aren't facing any juggernauts that are going to run them out of the stadium..... and in each game I don't think anyone would be SHOCKED if they won or lost any of them.  That's a perfect balance that you want as a coach and as a fan.  I don'y think MP wants a cake walk 4-0 start.....but they don't want to limp into district at 0-4 either.  Crandall has become an annual playoff contender and Lindale is always loaded with talent.  Sulphur Springs looks like they have turned the corner in their 4A digs.  Great schedule for MP.

Nacogdoches
Palestine (4-6)
Lufkin (5-5)
Livingston (2-9)
Bryan Rudder (3-7)

Nacogdoches took a big step back in their non-district strength of schedule from last season.   None of their 2024 opponents had a winning season last year.  Gone is state powerhouse Chapel Hill (13-3), who was a state finalist last season.  Gone is perennial playoff Lumberton (8-4).  Palestine returns as does the annual grudge match with Lufkin.  Livingston was a playoff team last year with a (2-8) regular season record.  Rudder is still a relatively new school...but was in the playoffs in 2021...but they have been (5-15) ever since.  Anything less than a (4-1) record for Nac with this line up would be somewhat disappointing.  Nac is hard to gauge.   They have athletes all over the field....and seem competitive in most games.....but they always seem to find ways to lose close games.

Marshall
Tyler (6-4)
Longview (11-2)
Tyler Legacy (3-8)
Palestine (4-6)

The most obvious change to the Maverick schedule was dropping Carthage, which clearly weakened their schedule as the Bulldogs are one of the top programs in the state.  I've often criticized Marshall's schedule for "biting off more than they can chew" in non-district, which has had the Mavs limping into district play annually with a 1-3 or 0-4 record.  Some have argued that the tough schedule has contributed to Marshall finishing either as district champion or district runner up every season since 2015 except for 2020.  Tyler, while not a playoff team in 2023, was wildy improved and likely would have been in the playoffs in most other 5A-D1 districts.  Palestine slips into Henderson's slot, which appears to be an improved game.  But Legacy taking Carthage's spot is clearly a step down.  And of course there's the grudge match against the juggernaut that is Longview.  I don't think anyone would be shocked to see Marshall go (1-3) in this schedule....nor would anyone be shocked with a (3-1)... a pretty good sign of a solid schedule.

Texas High
Tyler Legacy (3-8)
Liberty Christian Academy (14-0) (TAPPS Div II State Champions)
Midlothian Heritage (12-1)
Fayetteville (13-0) (7A State Champions)

The Tigers have pulled together a brutal schedule that not only has them facing two defending state champions, but also a region semi-finalist from 2023.   To make things even more difficult, three of their four non-district games are on the road.  The Tigers rematch Vs. Legacy in a game that was a barnburner last season in their QB's absence.    Then they hit the road to take on LCA, who won the TAPPS Division II state title last year.  LCA has approximately 1,200 students K-12 and a little over 500 in 9-12...and they are no strangers to state titles.  They have 70 state titles in various sports for boys and girls.  Then you have Midlothian Heritage, which has become one of the top playoff teams in the state in their short history.  Then the Tigers close it out with perhaps their toughest game of the regular season when they take on Arkansas 7A defending state champion Fayetteville.  

Hallsville
Lindale (7-5)
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Corsicana (2-8)
Pine Tree (6-5)

The Bobcats haven't released their schedule yet...but I've been able to piece 9 of their 10 games from other schedules.  I've found non-district games Vs Lindale, Corsicana, and Pine Tree posted......and all three on the road.  Ouch.  When you just went (1-9)...you are desperate for wins and thus far the Bobcats will likely be the underdogs in all three of the games listed.  It'll be interesting to see who that one game is against....it may be their best chance at a win all season unless they have a major turnaround.

Whitehouse
Whitehouse is staying very close-lipped about thier schedule.  Only 1 non-district game has been confirmed and that's against Kilgore in week 2.  They will scrimmage Gilmer as well.  No other news on their other 3 non-district games.

As always, great analysis @Mavchamp

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On 4/1/2024 at 8:49 PM, Mavchamp said:

Big prayers for MP 

Marshall is one of the classiest school districts I have ever seen. I saw on MPs facebook page that Marshall also did a black and gold day day for MP.

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MISD just broke ground for its renovation and expansion projects.

Should all be completed in 18 months.  Exciting to see! 

 

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Texas High (11-2)
Vs. Tyler Legacy (3-8)
@ Liberty Christian (14-0)
Vs. Midlothian Heritage (12-1)
@ Fayetteville (13-0)

Marshall (6-6)
Vs. Tyler (6-4)
Vs. Longview (11-2)
@ Tyler Legacy (3-8)
@ Palestine (4-6)

Whitehouse (7-4)
Vs. Dallas Woodrow Wilson (4-7)
@ Kilgore (12-2)
Vs. Chapel Hill (13-3)
Vs. Paris (4-7)

Mount Pleasant (5-4)
@ Crandall (6-4)
Vs. Lindale (7-5)
@ Terrell (7-4)
Vs. Sulphur Springs (8-3)

Nacogdoches (3-7)
Vs. Palestine (4-6)
@ Lufkin (5-5)
Vs. Livingston (2-9)
@ Bryan Rudder (3-7)

Jacksonville (0-10)
@ Center (7-4)
@ Brownsboro (5-5)
Vs. Henderson (2-8)
Vs. Athens (6-5)

Hallsville
@ Lindale (7-5)
Vs. Crandall (6-4)
@ Corsicana (2-8)
@ Pine Tree (6-5)

Prediction time.
How do you predict everyone going in non-district play?

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Texas High (11-2)
Vs. Tyler Legacy (3-8) WIN
@ Liberty Christian (14-0) LOSS
Vs. Midlothian Heritage (12-1) WIN
@ Fayetteville (13-0) WIN

Marshall (6-6)
Vs. Tyler (6-4) WIN
Vs. Longview (11-2) LOSS
@ Tyler Legacy (3-8) WIN
@ Palestine (4-6) WIN

Whitehouse (7-4)
Vs. Dallas Woodrow Wilson (4-7) WIN
@ Kilgore (12-2) LOSS
Vs. Chapel Hill (13-3) LOSS
Vs. Paris (4-7) WIN

Mount Pleasant (5-4)
@ Crandall (6-4) WIN
Vs. Lindale (7-5) LOSS
@ Terrell (7-4)WIN
Vs. Sulphur Springs (8-3) LOSS

Nacogdoches (3-7)
Vs. Palestine (4-6) WIN this game should be a win for Nac New coach for Palestine hopefully leads to growing pains
@ Lufkin (5-5)LOSS Nac hasn't beaten Lufkin since 2014 matter in fact the last three wins against them have been in Nac we haven't beaten Lufkin there since 82 and it won't happen this year.
Vs. Livingston (2-9) WIN not any history with the Lions this is strictly a homer pick
@ Bryan Rudder (3-7)LOSS not much History with Rudder either. We played them during the pandemic and lost a close one. it was at their place too, Nac has a history of struggling on the road. i see them dropping this one. 

we go into district play 2-2 

Jacksonville (0-10)
@ Center (7-4) LOSS
@ Brownsboro (5-5) LOSS
Vs. Henderson (2-8) LOSS
Vs. Athens (6-5) LOSS

Unfortunately Jax will struggle in non district 

Hallsville
@ Lindale (7-5) LOSS
Vs. Crandall (6-4) LOSS
@ Corsicana (2-8) LOSS
@ Pine Tree (6-5) LOSS

Prediction time.
How do you predict everyone going in non-district play?

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On 4/16/2024 at 3:46 PM, nacdragon07 said:

Texas High (11-2)
Vs. Tyler Legacy (3-8) WIN
@ Liberty Christian (14-0) LOSS
Vs. Midlothian Heritage (12-1) WIN
@ Fayetteville (13-0) WIN

Marshall (6-6)
Vs. Tyler (6-4) WIN
Vs. Longview (11-2) LOSS
@ Tyler Legacy (3-8) WIN
@ Palestine (4-6) WIN

Whitehouse (7-4)
Vs. Dallas Woodrow Wilson (4-7) WIN
@ Kilgore (12-2) LOSS
Vs. Chapel Hill (13-3) LOSS
Vs. Paris (4-7) WIN

Mount Pleasant (5-4)
@ Crandall (6-4) WIN
Vs. Lindale (7-5) LOSS
@ Terrell (7-4)WIN
Vs. Sulphur Springs (8-3) LOSS

Nacogdoches (3-7)
Vs. Palestine (4-6) WIN this game should be a win for Nac New coach for Palestine hopefully leads to growing pains
@ Lufkin (5-5)LOSS Nac hasn't beaten Lufkin since 2014 matter in fact the last three wins against them have been in Nac we haven't beaten Lufkin there since 82 and it won't happen this year.
Vs. Livingston (2-9) WIN not any history with the Lions this is strictly a homer pick
@ Bryan Rudder (3-7)LOSS not much History with Rudder either. We played them during the pandemic and lost a close one. it was at their place too, Nac has a history of struggling on the road. i see them dropping this one. 

we go into district play 2-2 

Jacksonville (0-10)
@ Center (7-4) LOSS
@ Brownsboro (5-5) LOSS
Vs. Henderson (2-8) LOSS
Vs. Athens (6-5) LOSS

Unfortunately Jax will struggle in non district 

Hallsville
@ Lindale (7-5) LOSS
Vs. Crandall (6-4) LOSS
@ Corsicana (2-8) LOSS
@ Pine Tree (6-5) LOSS

Prediction time.
How do you predict everyone going in non-district play?

Good stuff.

I wouldn't be shocked to see THS go 4-0.  But 3-1 seems plausible with such a killer schedule.  TBH tho...I think Fayetteville is going to be the toughest...even though Liberty Christian won state too.  I'm just not sold that even a really good small TAPPS schools will hang with the Tigers.  I'm not sure about Arkansas HSFB either...but I think it's better than TAPPS.

I'll be thrilled with 3-1 if that's how Marshall finishes.  But I'm pretty sure they will be underdogs Vs. Tyler, Longview.....and MAYBE even Legacy.  I know enrollment doesn't mean everything....but at the end of the day Lgv and Legacy are 6A schools that are significantly bigger.  Tyler too for that matter even though they are 5AD1.  (3-1) would be sweet.  But (1-3) isn't completely out of the question.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, Mavchamp said:

Good stuff.

I wouldn't be shocked to see THS go 4-0.  But 3-1 seems plausible with such a killer schedule.  TBH tho...I think Fayetteville is going to be the toughest...

 

 

Wow..     I think 1-3 is a possibility and would probably be my best guess. I think 3-1 would make us legit state contenders.   I don't see any path to 4-0.    But I totally agree that Fayetteville will probably be the toughest of that group.

But 1-3 wouldn't drag me down.  I'm not worried about any pre-district record or state rankings.

 

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12 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

Good stuff.

I wouldn't be shocked to see THS go 4-0.  But 3-1 seems plausible with such a killer schedule.  TBH tho...I think Fayetteville is going to be the toughest...even though Liberty Christian won state too.  I'm just not sold that even a really good small TAPPS schools will hang with the Tigers.  I'm not sure about Arkansas HSFB either...but I think it's better than TAPPS.

I'll be thrilled with 3-1 if that's how Marshall finishes.  But I'm pretty sure they will be underdogs Vs. Tyler, Longview.....and MAYBE even Legacy.  I know enrollment doesn't mean everything....but at the end of the day Lgv and Legacy are 6A schools that are significantly bigger.  Tyler too for that matter even though they are 5AD1.  (3-1) would be sweet.  But (1-3) isn't completely out of the question.

 

 

i was at the tyler high game. there was absolutely no reason as to why Marshall didn't win that game. 

i think that left a sour taste in their mouths. i think they return the favor.  the Tyler Legacy scrimmage was chippy as well towards the end. i believe they can and probably beat them as well.  Longview is always Longview that's a monster hill to climb. the Palestine Game will be interesting with new head Coach james  Reyes  on the sidelines against his Alma Mater.  Palestine mirrors Nacogdoches great athletes but struggles with consistency. that could go either way. 

 

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13 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

Good stuff.

I wouldn't be shocked to see THS go 4-0.  But 3-1 seems plausible with such a killer schedule.  TBH tho...I think Fayetteville is going to be the toughest...even though Liberty Christian won state too.  I'm just not sold that even a really good small TAPPS schools will hang with the Tigers.  I'm not sure about Arkansas HSFB either...but I think it's better than TAPPS.

I'll be thrilled with 3-1 if that's how Marshall finishes.  But I'm pretty sure they will be underdogs Vs. Tyler, Longview.....and MAYBE even Legacy.  I know enrollment doesn't mean everything....but at the end of the day Lgv and Legacy are 6A schools that are significantly bigger.  Tyler too for that matter even though they are 5AD1.  (3-1) would be sweet.  But (1-3) isn't completely out of the question.

 

 

Fayetteville is usually a pretty good program im pretty sure they won the 6a state championship last year ( I think theres about 16 teams in 6a) but all i really know is they lost their QB from last years team so not sure how theyll be next year. 

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Texas High (11-2)
Vs. Tyler Legacy (3-8)  WIN
@ Liberty Christian (14-0) WIN
Vs. Midlothian Heritage (12-1) WIN
@ Fayetteville (13-0) TOSS UP

(4-0) is very possible for the Tigers IMHO.  But it won't be easy...as they have the toughest non-district schedule of the lot.  It's loaded with some top teams.  On paper the LC game could be a barn-burner Vs. a defending state champion....but I'm just not 100% confident that a (even a very good) TAPPS school can hang with a quality UIL school, especially a large 5A school.  I wouldn't be shocked to see THS run them out of the stadium....but I would't be shocked if the game were close either.  I simply don't know enough about LC to make an educated prediction.  But they lost their 3000 yard passing QB...but they return a 1700 yard RB.  I just have a feeling THS' size across the lines will be a MAJOR problem for LC.  The Midlothian Heritage game is the most interesting of the four IMHO.  MH is a very VERY good program.  (12-2), (12-1), (11-2), (10-4), (9-3), (8-4), (11-2), (12-1) since 2016....that's pretty dang impressive.  This is the Tiger's toughest game in my eyes. They return a 2000 yard passer and a stable of good running backs.  The Fayetteville game is killer.  Number one...it's a 5 hour drive into a hostile environment of a defending state champion.  BUT..... the Bulldogs will be without their 3900 yard passing QB and their 1200 yard RB... this isn't exactly the same team that won the 7A state championship last winter.  But it looks like they win a lot most years (11-3), (13-2), (12-1), (10-3), (10-3), (13-0) with 2 state titles and a couple of runner up seasons.  I wouldn't be shocked to see the Tigers win the game....simply because I think THSF>AHSF.  But given the history of FHS and being at home.... I wouldn't be shocked to see Texarkana drop one.

 

Marshall (6-6)
Vs. Tyler (6-4) TOSS UP
Vs. Longview (11-2) LOSS
@ Tyler Legacy (3-8) WIN
@ Palestine (4-6) WIN

I'm a firm believer that you want to test yourself and push yourself in non-district.  No cupcakes wanted.  But I also think there is suppose to be a balance.  Sure... play some games Vs. teams your picked to lose against.  Also play games with whom your evenly matched.  But for the last (many) years I've thought Marshall took the idea of "iron sharpens iron" a little bit to the extreme with the Marshall non-district schedule.  With the likes of Longview, Carthage, Shadow Creek, New Caney....  The Mavs have gone head to head Vs. arguably the best 4A program in the state annually..... an elite 5A Div I school (about to be 6A) and 2 other schools SIGNIFICANTLY larger than MHS.  These are programs we aspire to be where they are.... I was glad to see us get a more balanced schedule.  I honestly believe we will be underdogs in 3 of the 4 games. However...I think 2 of those three are winnable...even if we're not the favorite.  Tyler is a good test.  Athletic, well coached, and without a doubt a program that surged last season.  Longview is Longview is Longview.  Legacy is enormous compared to MHS..ail.not only numerically in enrollment... but historically beefier across the lines.  That's always been a problem.  BUT...Legacy has a LOT to fill in 2024.  Marshall will likely be the favorite Vs. Palestine even though it's a long road game.  Tyler game can go either way.... Lions have their talented QB back....but McFall will be gone.  Would not be shocked to see Marshall win....or lose this game.  It was a 5 OT battle last season.  Just hoping to stay on the field with Longview...... maybe break a sweat.  That would be great.   I think we can beat Legacy....but they may be the favorite because of their 6A numbers and sheer size advantage.  (3-1) possible...... (2-2) likely..... (1-3) not our of the question.

Whitehouse (7-4)
Vs. Dallas Woodrow Wilson (4-7) WIN
@ Kilgore (12-2) LOSS
Vs. Chapel Hill (13-3) LOSS
Vs. Paris (4-7) WIN

I'm still kind of stoked to see WH step their non-district schedule up after several years of playing games against the Texas Blind academy and the Sisters of the Weak and Poor in September.   I think (2-2) is a good call for the Wildcats.  They will likely be pretty heavy favorites against inner city Dallas Wilson, who comes from a historically terrible football district.  But the back to back games Vs. Kilgore and Chapel Hill are intriguing.  Both programs are amongst ETX elite.... If WH can get a win over either they automatically beome a contender for the district title IMHO.  They will be favored to beat Paris handily.  I can't imagine WH losing to Wilson or Paris so that's 2 wins in the bag.  A win over Kilgore or CH would be pretty monumental in spite of their being 4A...they are elite.  If Kilgore comes out with a slow start to 2024 then the Wildcats might can steal one.  But I honestly have no idea what Kilgore has coming back from their (12-2) team.  Chapel Hill is a 4A State runner up coming off of a (13-3) season.....and they are LOADED.  QB Brison will return for his senior year with over 2000 yards passing last season.  NOT to mention he rushed for over 1700 as well for 3700 all purpose yards.  But there's more.... RB Stewart also returns for his senior year after rushing for an UNREAL 2,800 yards.  Toss in a corps of WR's that come back from last year and the Bulldogs are a TALL mountain to climb.  (3-1) isn't impossible for WH....but (2-2) seems to be most likely.

Mount Pleasant (5-4)
@ Crandall (6-4)  LOSS
Vs. Lindale (7-5) WIN
@ Terrell (7-4) WIN
Vs. Sulphur Springs (8-3) LOSS

The Tigers have pieced together a solid non-district slate with 3 playoff teams from last season and another that just missed out of the playoffs in a highly competitive district.  The biggest obstacle for MP headed into the season is replacing Mason McMinn, who has been their field general for the last 3 seasons. It will be difficult to replicate what he brought not only with his passing arm...but with his scrambling legs too.  He made the offense GO.  But the cupboard isn't bare.... while McMinn was the leading rusher too.... RB Tony Grant will be back and he was a work horse for MP last season as a sophomore.   Biggest question for the Tigers headed into 2024 is DEFENSE.  MP gave up 40 or more points in 4 of their 9 games last season and over 30 in 5 of 9 games.  They will need to tighten the defense this season especially with a newly built offense taking the field.  Crandall is a solid 5A opponent and the game really could go either way.  I have no idea what Crandall has coming back in 2024....but they are generally an annual playoff contender..... MP on a long road trip.  That's a tough way to open a season.  Things get no easier in week 2 Vs. Lindale.  But will Lindale be down a little after losing their QB Clint Thurman, who had an eye-popping 2000 yards rushing and 1600 yards passing last season?  Lindale usually reloads instead of rebuilds...but that's a lot to replace.... MP might be able to steal one.  Terrell has also become an annual playoff team, partly due to their Wing-T offense.    Some teams struggle to stop the Wing -T...if MP does...they could get the victory.  Sulphur Springs had been pretty horrendous the last few years, but looks like they returned to form in 2023.  No idea what they have coming back.  I predict (2-2)....but (4-0) isn't out of the question if the Tigers pull things together.  (0-4) isn't expected...but also not out of the question if they struggle without McMinn and the defense doens't gel quickly.

Nacogdoches (3-7)
Vs. Palestine (4-6) TOSS UP
@ Lufkin (5-5) LOSS
Vs. Livingston (2-9) WIN
@ Bryan Rudder (3-7) LOSS

The Dragons scaled back their non-district schedule by dropping juggernaut Chapel Hill and traditionally strong Lumberton and replacing them with Livingston and Rudder.  Palestine and Lufkin return from the previous two seasons' tilts.  Nac is entering 2024 with an offense that has very little returning from last season's explosive squad.  QB Makail Lockett had more than 2,500 yards passing and nearly 500 rushing and is headed to the college ranks.   Leading Nac RB James Williams with his 5 yard/carry average will also be graduating.  Not to mention most of Lockett's favorite WR targets are headed out too with Jaylan Brown, Lajarian Leadon, and Tymarie Williams who all combined for 2,200 yards and 19 touchdowns.  Nac had 46 touchdowns last season and those 5 players accounted for 37 of them.  Ouch.  Not to mention Nac's defense was ranked near the bottom in the district, giving up over 35 points in five of their 10 games.  They open the season against a Palestine team that will be sporting a new coach...but a coach that knows Nac very well in James Reyes, former OC at Nac.  IMHO this game is a complete toss us.  Wouldn't be shocked to see either win.  Lufkin will likely win easy over their rivals.  Nac gets the win over a struggling Livingston a tough road game at Rudder.  Rudder had a tough season last year, but has been pretty strong in spite of having a short history.


Jacksonville (0-10)
@ Center (7-4) LOSS
@ Brownsboro (5-5) 
Vs. Henderson (2-8)
Vs. Athens (6-5)

The once proud Tribe program has really struggled for a while now....and even a 2 year stint in 4A was no help for them.  Now back in 5A....the road got even tougher.  The Indians are (7-50) in the last 6 seasons and to add salt to the wound, Jacksonville lost their starting QB to Gilmer just a few weeks ago.  Their non-district schedule is less than stellar, but it's a schedule necessary for a team that is averaging one victory per season.  The Indians open the season with a tough road game Vs. Center.  The Roughriders are a formidable 4A opponent and the Tribe will no doubt be underdogs in this game.  They follow it up with a game that might be their best chance at a victory all season when they travel to Brownsboro....but it's definitely not automatic.  They open their home schedule with a game against an up-and-coming Henderson team.  The Lions beat Jax 58-14 last season in district play...and the Lions will be welcoming back their star QB in Smiley who had 1100 yards passing and 656 rushing.  However RB Starling had over 1,000 yards last season as well and all that offense spells bad news for the Indians.  Athens beat Jacksonville 48-28 last season in district play.  Looking at the schedule.... (0-4) seems like a distinct possibility for the Tribe.  (1-3) is being optimistic.... tough time to be a J-ville fan.  

Hallsville
@ Lindale (7-5) LOSS
Vs. Crandall (6-4) LOSS
@ Corsicana (2-8) WIN
@ Pine Tree (6-5) LOSS

The Bobcats struggled to a (1-9) season last year, their lone win against Henderson.  Hallsville found out how tough life was without their all-world QB Mosley, who carried them to victories in his years at QB.  But even with the offensive struggles noted, the Bobcat's achilles heel was their defense, which was ranked dead last in the district.  Hallsville surrendered at least 40 points in five games last year and at least 30 in 8 of 10 games.  Headed into 2024 they will be looking for a new QB this season with Ethan Miller graduating.  They will have their RB returning in Bolden.....and rumor has it the Bobcats may have a RB transfer from Longview High School.  Hallsville opens the season against Lindale, a game one has to imagine the Eagles will be big favorites.  Crandall will come to town in week 2 and again the Bobcats will likely be underdogs.  Corsicana may be their best chance at a victory.  The TIgers are generally a tough program, but they have fallen on hard times in the last couple of years.  The non-district portion of the schedule will close out with their biggest rivals..... Pine Tree.   PT has become an annual playoff team and is never short on talent.  With PT now in 4A.... one has to believe they are going to be favored to win at home Vs. Hallsville.  (1-3) could be very likely..... not sold on (0-4) thanks to Corsicana.  But (2-2) seems like a long shot.

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Two Marshall alum are likely to be drafted this weekend in the NFL draft. 

Tahj Washington from USC as a WR.   MHS class 2019. 

Marje Snith from SFA as a DE.  MHS class 2018  

Best of luck to both!!!  

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On 4/14/2024 at 4:26 PM, Mavchamp said:

Texas High (11-2)
Vs. Tyler Legacy (3-8)
@ Liberty Christian (14-0)
Vs. Midlothian Heritage (12-1)
@ Fayetteville (13-0)

Marshall (6-6)
Vs. Tyler (6-4)
Vs. Longview (11-2)
@ Tyler Legacy (3-8)
@ Palestine (4-6)

Whitehouse (7-4)
Vs. Dallas Woodrow Wilson (4-7)
@ Kilgore (12-2)
Vs. Chapel Hill (13-3)
Vs. Paris (4-7)

Mount Pleasant (5-4)
@ Crandall (6-4)
Vs. Lindale (7-5)
@ Terrell (7-4)
Vs. Sulphur Springs (8-3)

Nacogdoches (3-7)
Vs. Palestine (4-6)
@ Lufkin (5-5)
Vs. Livingston (2-9)
@ Bryan Rudder (3-7)

Jacksonville (0-10)
@ Center (7-4)
@ Brownsboro (5-5)
Vs. Henderson (2-8)
Vs. Athens (6-5)

Hallsville
@ Lindale (7-5)
Vs. Crandall (6-4)
@ Corsicana (2-8)
@ Pine Tree (6-5)

Prediction time.
How do you predict everyone going in non-district play?

Texas 1-3

Marshall 3-1

Whitehouse 2-2

Mt Pleasant 2-2

Nac 3-1

Jax 2-2

Hallsville 3-1

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On 4/19/2024 at 9:13 PM, Mavchamp said:

Texas High (11-2)
Vs. Tyler Legacy (3-8)  WIN
@ Liberty Christian (14-0) WIN
Vs. Midlothian Heritage (12-1) WIN
@ Fayetteville (13-0) TOSS UP

(4-0) is very possible for the Tigers IMHO.  But it won't be easy...as they have the toughest non-district schedule of the lot.  It's loaded with some top teams.  On paper the LC game could be a barn-burner Vs. a defending state champion....but I'm just not 100% confident that a (even a very good) TAPPS school can hang with a quality UIL school, especially a large 5A school.  I wouldn't be shocked to see THS run them out of the stadium....but I would't be shocked if the game were close either.  I simply don't know enough about LC to make an educated prediction.  But they lost their 3000 yard passing QB...but they return a 1700 yard RB.  I just have a feeling THS' size across the lines will be a MAJOR problem for LC.  The Midlothian Heritage game is the most interesting of the four IMHO.  MH is a very VERY good program.  (12-2), (12-1), (11-2), (10-4), (9-3), (8-4), (11-2), (12-1) since 2016....that's pretty dang impressive.  This is the Tiger's toughest game in my eyes. They return a 2000 yard passer and a stable of good running backs.  The Fayetteville game is killer.  Number one...it's a 5 hour drive into a hostile environment of a defending state champion.  BUT..... the Bulldogs will be without their 3900 yard passing QB and their 1200 yard RB... this isn't exactly the same team that won the 7A state championship last winter.  But it looks like they win a lot most years (11-3), (13-2), (12-1), (10-3), (10-3), (13-0) with 2 state titles and a couple of runner up seasons.  I wouldn't be shocked to see the Tigers win the game....simply because I think THSF>AHSF.  But given the history of FHS and being at home.... I wouldn't be shocked to see Texarkana drop one.

 

Marshall (6-6)
Vs. Tyler (6-4) TOSS UP
Vs. Longview (11-2) LOSS
@ Tyler Legacy (3-8) WIN
@ Palestine (4-6) WIN

I'm a firm believer that you want to test yourself and push yourself in non-district.  No cupcakes wanted.  But I also think there is suppose to be a balance.  Sure... play some games Vs. teams your picked to lose against.  Also play games with whom your evenly matched.  But for the last (many) years I've thought Marshall took the idea of "iron sharpens iron" a little bit to the extreme with the Marshall non-district schedule.  With the likes of Longview, Carthage, Shadow Creek, New Caney....  The Mavs have gone head to head Vs. arguably the best 4A program in the state annually..... an elite 5A Div I school (about to be 6A) and 2 other schools SIGNIFICANTLY larger than MHS.  These are programs we aspire to be where they are.... I was glad to see us get a more balanced schedule.  I honestly believe we will be underdogs in 3 of the 4 games. However...I think 2 of those three are winnable...even if we're not the favorite.  Tyler is a good test.  Athletic, well coached, and without a doubt a program that surged last season.  Longview is Longview is Longview.  Legacy is enormous compared to MHS..ail.not only numerically in enrollment... but historically beefier across the lines.  That's always been a problem.  BUT...Legacy has a LOT to fill in 2024.  Marshall will likely be the favorite Vs. Palestine even though it's a long road game.  Tyler game can go either way.... Lions have their talented QB back....but McFall will be gone.  Would not be shocked to see Marshall win....or lose this game.  It was a 5 OT battle last season.  Just hoping to stay on the field with Longview...... maybe break a sweat.  That would be great.   I think we can beat Legacy....but they may be the favorite because of their 6A numbers and sheer size advantage.  (3-1) possible...... (2-2) likely..... (1-3) not our of the question.

Whitehouse (7-4)
Vs. Dallas Woodrow Wilson (4-7) WIN
@ Kilgore (12-2) LOSS
Vs. Chapel Hill (13-3) LOSS
Vs. Paris (4-7) WIN

I'm still kind of stoked to see WH step their non-district schedule up after several years of playing games against the Texas Blind academy and the Sisters of the Weak and Poor in September.   I think (2-2) is a good call for the Wildcats.  They will likely be pretty heavy favorites against inner city Dallas Wilson, who comes from a historically terrible football district.  But the back to back games Vs. Kilgore and Chapel Hill are intriguing.  Both programs are amongst ETX elite.... If WH can get a win over either they automatically beome a contender for the district title IMHO.  They will be favored to beat Paris handily.  I can't imagine WH losing to Wilson or Paris so that's 2 wins in the bag.  A win over Kilgore or CH would be pretty monumental in spite of their being 4A...they are elite.  If Kilgore comes out with a slow start to 2024 then the Wildcats might can steal one.  But I honestly have no idea what Kilgore has coming back from their (12-2) team.  Chapel Hill is a 4A State runner up coming off of a (13-3) season.....and they are LOADED.  QB Brison will return for his senior year with over 2000 yards passing last season.  NOT to mention he rushed for over 1700 as well for 3700 all purpose yards.  But there's more.... RB Stewart also returns for his senior year after rushing for an UNREAL 2,800 yards.  Toss in a corps of WR's that come back from last year and the Bulldogs are a TALL mountain to climb.  (3-1) isn't impossible for WH....but (2-2) seems to be most likely.

Mount Pleasant (5-4)
@ Crandall (6-4)  LOSS
Vs. Lindale (7-5) WIN
@ Terrell (7-4) WIN
Vs. Sulphur Springs (8-3) LOSS

The Tigers have pieced together a solid non-district slate with 3 playoff teams from last season and another that just missed out of the playoffs in a highly competitive district.  The biggest obstacle for MP headed into the season is replacing Mason McMinn, who has been their field general for the last 3 seasons. It will be difficult to replicate what he brought not only with his passing arm...but with his scrambling legs too.  He made the offense GO.  But the cupboard isn't bare.... while McMinn was the leading rusher too.... RB Tony Grant will be back and he was a work horse for MP last season as a sophomore.   Biggest question for the Tigers headed into 2024 is DEFENSE.  MP gave up 40 or more points in 4 of their 9 games last season and over 30 in 5 of 9 games.  They will need to tighten the defense this season especially with a newly built offense taking the field.  Crandall is a solid 5A opponent and the game really could go either way.  I have no idea what Crandall has coming back in 2024....but they are generally an annual playoff contender..... MP on a long road trip.  That's a tough way to open a season.  Things get no easier in week 2 Vs. Lindale.  But will Lindale be down a little after losing their QB Clint Thurman, who had an eye-popping 2000 yards rushing and 1600 yards passing last season?  Lindale usually reloads instead of rebuilds...but that's a lot to replace.... MP might be able to steal one.  Terrell has also become an annual playoff team, partly due to their Wing-T offense.    Some teams struggle to stop the Wing -T...if MP does...they could get the victory.  Sulphur Springs had been pretty horrendous the last few years, but looks like they returned to form in 2023.  No idea what they have coming back.  I predict (2-2)....but (4-0) isn't out of the question if the Tigers pull things together.  (0-4) isn't expected...but also not out of the question if they struggle without McMinn and the defense doens't gel quickly.

Nacogdoches (3-7)
Vs. Palestine (4-6) TOSS UP
@ Lufkin (5-5) LOSS
Vs. Livingston (2-9) WIN
@ Bryan Rudder (3-7) LOSS

The Dragons scaled back their non-district schedule by dropping juggernaut Chapel Hill and traditionally strong Lumberton and replacing them with Livingston and Rudder.  Palestine and Lufkin return from the previous two seasons' tilts.  Nac is entering 2024 with an offense that has very little returning from last season's explosive squad.  QB Makail Lockett had more than 2,500 yards passing and nearly 500 rushing and is headed to the college ranks.   Leading Nac RB James Williams with his 5 yard/carry average will also be graduating.  Not to mention most of Lockett's favorite WR targets are headed out too with Jaylan Brown, Lajarian Leadon, and Tymarie Williams who all combined for 2,200 yards and 19 touchdowns.  Nac had 46 touchdowns last season and those 5 players accounted for 37 of them.  Ouch.  Not to mention Nac's defense was ranked near the bottom in the district, giving up over 35 points in five of their 10 games.  They open the season against a Palestine team that will be sporting a new coach...but a coach that knows Nac very well in James Reyes, former OC at Nac.  IMHO this game is a complete toss us.  Wouldn't be shocked to see either win.  Lufkin will likely win easy over their rivals.  Nac gets the win over a struggling Livingston a tough road game at Rudder.  Rudder had a tough season last year, but has been pretty strong in spite of having a short history.


Jacksonville (0-10)
@ Center (7-4) LOSS
@ Brownsboro (5-5) 
Vs. Henderson (2-8)
Vs. Athens (6-5)

The once proud Tribe program has really struggled for a while now....and even a 2 year stint in 4A was no help for them.  Now back in 5A....the road got even tougher.  The Indians are (7-50) in the last 6 seasons and to add salt to the wound, Jacksonville lost their starting QB to Gilmer just a few weeks ago.  Their non-district schedule is less than stellar, but it's a schedule necessary for a team that is averaging one victory per season.  The Indians open the season with a tough road game Vs. Center.  The Roughriders are a formidable 4A opponent and the Tribe will no doubt be underdogs in this game.  They follow it up with a game that might be their best chance at a victory all season when they travel to Brownsboro....but it's definitely not automatic.  They open their home schedule with a game against an up-and-coming Henderson team.  The Lions beat Jax 58-14 last season in district play...and the Lions will be welcoming back their star QB in Smiley who had 1100 yards passing and 656 rushing.  However RB Starling had over 1,000 yards last season as well and all that offense spells bad news for the Indians.  Athens beat Jacksonville 48-28 last season in district play.  Looking at the schedule.... (0-4) seems like a distinct possibility for the Tribe.  (1-3) is being optimistic.... tough time to be a J-ville fan.  

Hallsville
@ Lindale (7-5) LOSS
Vs. Crandall (6-4) LOSS
@ Corsicana (2-8) WIN
@ Pine Tree (6-5) LOSS

The Bobcats struggled to a (1-9) season last year, their lone win against Henderson.  Hallsville found out how tough life was without their all-world QB Mosley, who carried them to victories in his years at QB.  But even with the offensive struggles noted, the Bobcat's achilles heel was their defense, which was ranked dead last in the district.  Hallsville surrendered at least 40 points in five games last year and at least 30 in 8 of 10 games.  Headed into 2024 they will be looking for a new QB this season with Ethan Miller graduating.  They will have their RB returning in Bolden.....and rumor has it the Bobcats may have a RB transfer from Longview High School.  Hallsville opens the season against Lindale, a game one has to imagine the Eagles will be big favorites.  Crandall will come to town in week 2 and again the Bobcats will likely be underdogs.  Corsicana may be their best chance at a victory.  The TIgers are generally a tough program, but they have fallen on hard times in the last couple of years.  The non-district portion of the schedule will close out with their biggest rivals..... Pine Tree.   PT has become an annual playoff team and is never short on talent.  With PT now in 4A.... one has to believe they are going to be favored to win at home Vs. Hallsville.  (1-3) could be very likely..... not sold on (0-4) thanks to Corsicana.  But (2-2) seems like a long shot.

Fayetteville had a really good off season for transfers.Former Arkansas DC Barry Odom who is the HC at UNLV has a son that is a QB just transferred back to Fayetteville for his senior season and is bringing a Four Star LB from Las Vegas with him so they will be good again.

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1 hour ago, Hogman2018 said:

Fayetteville had a really good off season for transfers.Former Arkansas DC Barry Odom who is the HC at UNLV has a son that is a QB just transferred back to Fayetteville for his senior season and is bringing a Four Star LB from Las Vegas with him so they will be good again.

Historically they are always good

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