District 9-4A Division One

[Lion Breed]

13 hours ago, cotton84 said:

Yes

I don't really care about  what seeding, just mainly if Henderson gets in the playoffs,been along time for a change.

[EnjoyLife]

With PTs win over Henderson isn't there now 4 teams with one loss? It may take a mathematician to figure out the standings lol.

[KildogDad]

Kilgore is locked in for the playoffs, but district crown is still up for grabs and have the advantage in a 3-way tie-breaker with PT and Hendo.

 

Currently, here's how to totally mess up the standings and taking for granted that Palestine and Mabank remain winless:

Of the four remaining schools:

Henderson - 3-1

Pine Tree -    3-1

Chapel Hill -  3-1

Lindale       -  1-2

 

October 25 - Pine Tree beats Chapel Hill

Pine Tree    - 4-1 - 

Henderson - 3-1 - off

Chapel Hill - 3-2

Lindale       - 2-2 - beat Mabank

 

November 1 - Chapel Hill beats Henderson, Lindale beats Pine Tree

Chapel Hill - 4-2

Pine Tree   - 3-2

Henderson - 3-2

Lindale       - 3-2

 

November 8 - Loser of the Lindale/Henderson game is out at 3-3 and a hot mess for seeds #2-#4.

 

 

[Sportsguru02]

2 minutes ago, KildogDad said:

Kilgore is locked in for the playoffs, but district crown is still up for grabs and have the advantage in a 3-way tie-breaker with PT and Hendo.

 

Currently, here's how to totally mess up the standings and taking for granted that Palestine and Mabank remain winless:

Of the four remaining schools:

Henderson - 3-1

Pine Tree -    3-1

Chapel Hill -  3-1

Lindale       -  1-2

 

October 25 - Pine Tree beats Chapel Hill

Pine Tree    - 4-1 - 

Henderson - 3-1 - off

Chapel Hill - 3-2

Lindale       - 2-2 - beat Mabank

 

November 1 - Chapel Hill beats Henderson, Lindale beats Pine Tree

Chapel Hill - 4-2

Pine Tree   - 3-2

Henderson - 3-2

Lindale       - 3-2

 

November 8 - Loser of the Lindale/Henderson game is out at 3-3 and a hot mess for seeds #2-#4.

 

 

How does Kilgore have the advantage if they lost to Henderson but PT beat them? With PT beating Henderson by 10 I think they have the point advantage 

[KildogDad]

6 hours ago, Sportsguru02 said:

How does Kilgore have the advantage if they lost to Henderson but PT beat them? With PT beating Henderson by 10 I think they have the point advantage 

Kilgore beat PT by 11

PT beat Hendo by 10

Hendo beat Kilgore by 3

Wouldn’t that make it Kilgore +8, PT -1, and Hendo -7?

Edited October 19 by KildogDad

[Lion7000]

8 hours ago, KildogDad said:

Kilgore is locked in for the playoffs, but district crown is still up for grabs and have the advantage in a 3-way tie-breaker with PT and Hendo.

 

Currently, here's how to totally mess up the standings and taking for granted that Palestine and Mabank remain winless:

Of the four remaining schools:

Henderson - 3-1

Pine Tree -    3-1

Chapel Hill -  3-1

Lindale       -  1-2

 

October 25 - Pine Tree beats Chapel Hill

Pine Tree    - 4-1 - 

Henderson - 3-1 - off

Chapel Hill - 3-2

Lindale       - 2-2 - beat Mabank

 

November 1 - Chapel Hill beats Henderson, Lindale beats Pine Tree

Chapel Hill - 4-2

Pine Tree   - 3-2

Henderson - 3-2

Lindale       - 3-2

 

November 8 - Loser of the Lindale/Henderson game is out at 3-3 and a hot mess for seeds #2-#4.

 

 

I been saying all alone Henderson @ Lindale is basically a play in game unless we beat Chill on SR night! Not sure if PT vs Lindale would affect them in said playoff game.

[KildogDad]

The game of the week this Friday has to be Chapel Hill and Pine Tree.

[KildogDad]

With only Palestine and Mabank remaining, it looks like Kilgore is in.

It also looks like four wins and you're in.

How I rank the rest of the playoff hopefuls:

1) Pine Tree (2-1) - Chapel Hill, Lindale, and Palestine left - most complete team of the four and they also have the tie-breaker over....

2) Henderson (3-1) - Chapel Hill and Lindale left - young and growing and have a week to rest before the last two games

3) Chapel Hill (3-1) - Pine Tree and Henderson left - at what point do they literally put the team on Stewart's shoulders to insure a place in the playoffs? CH has the tie-breaker over....

4) Lindale (1-2) - Mabank, Pine Tree, and Henderson left - cannot to afford to lose another game. Who would have thought that Lindale's first loss of district play may be the one that knocks them out of post-season action?

 

 

[KildogDad]

Cal/Maxpreps Class 4A D1 rankings this weekend:

 2 - Kilgore

 5 - Pine Tree

 8 - Chapel Hill

11 - Henderson

12 - Lindale

 

Oh, and dear football people - if we could have a series between District 9 and District 7 schools next fall, that would be really cool.

[GoodOleBoy73]

3 hours ago, KildogDad said:

With only Palestine and Mabank remaining, it looks like Kilgore is in.

It also looks like four wins and you're in.

How I rank the rest of the playoff hopefuls:

1) Pine Tree (2-1) - Chapel Hill, Lindale, and Palestine left - most complete team of the four and they also have the tie-breaker over....

2) Henderson (3-1) - Chapel Hill and Lindale left - young and growing and have a week to rest before the last two games

3) Chapel Hill (3-1) - Pine Tree and Henderson left - at what point do they literally put the team on Stewart's shoulders to insure a place in the playoffs? CH has the tie-breaker over....

4) Lindale (1-2) - Mabank, Pine Tree, and Henderson left - cannot to afford to lose another game. Who would have thought that Lindale's first loss of district play may be the one that knocks them out of post-season action?

 

 

Am I wrong to think Lindale could get in if they beat Mabank and Henderson?

Edited October 19 by GoodOleBoy73

[PT Playoffs]

no they dont get in they have to go undefeated from here on out for a playoff spot and henderson has to lose the next 2 games to lindale and chapel hill for lindale to win the head to head and get them in the playoffs

[PT Playoffs]

hes right the point system takes precedent in a 3 way tie 

[KildogDad]

29 minutes ago, GoodOleBoy73 said:

Am I wrong to think Lindale could get in if they beat Mabank and Henderson?

The only way I could see that happening is if Henderson lost the rest of their games putting both teams at 3-3 for Lindale to get the head-to-head tiebreaker.

[GoodOleBoy73]

2 hours ago, KildogDad said:

The only way I could see that happening is if Henderson lost the rest of their games putting both teams at 3-3 for Lindale to get the head-to-head tiebreaker.

Right…so the Henderson Chapel Hill game is a big one

[LetsGoEagles]

5 hours ago, GoodOleBoy73 said:

Am I wrong to think Lindale could get in if they beat Mabank and Henderson?

Coupled with Hendo losing out and a lindale is in. 

[Footballfan99]

20 hours ago, LetsGoEagles said:

Coupled with Hendo losing out and a lindale is in. 

It would be disappointing to not see Lindale in the playoffs. However, it’s good to see Henderson back in the mix. Makes thing more interesting down the stretch. Hoping for a Week 10 win or go home scenario for Henderson and Lindale

[KildogDad]

45 minutes ago, Footballfan99 said:

It would be disappointing to not see Lindale in the playoffs. However, it’s good to see Henderson back in the mix. Makes thing more interesting down the stretch. Hoping for a Week 10 win or go home scenario for Henderson and Lindale

Lindale's fate is in their own hands, but they've got to earn it getting past Pine Tree and Henderson.

[Jakeelee05]

52 minutes ago, KildogDad said:

Lindale's fate is in their own hands, but they've got to earn it getting past Pine Tree and Henderson.

Very true. If Lindale’s offense and defense could just play good at the same time, they would be really good. They just don’t seem able to get in sync with each other. Honestly the offense hasn’t really found its identity yet which is bad being so far into the season. I feel like the power offense is the best option but the coaches just aren’t pulling the trigger on not playing the starting qb. He has gotten much better but still isn’t up to par. I don’t know how much of it is the coaches not wanting to give up on him or if it’s politics.

[GoodOleBoy73]

11 hours ago, Jakeelee05 said:

Very true. If Lindale’s offense and defense could just play good at the same time, they would be really good. They just don’t seem able to get in sync with each other. Honestly the offense hasn’t really found its identity yet which is bad being so far into the season. I feel like the power offense is the best option but the coaches just aren’t pulling the trigger on not playing the starting qb. He has gotten much better but still isn’t up to par. I don’t know how much of it is the coaches not wanting to give up on him or if it’s politics.

You guys are crazy with the politics talk IMO. People saying that the coaches are bought...have clearly never held a job where getting hired and fired is based directly on the outcome of games dictated by 16-18 year old kids. I've always worked in the private sector, but I am close friends with several people who have spent some time coaching football in Northeast Texas and Southwest Arkansas.

Nobody wants to win more than the people in that building. We can all talk and say whatever we want publicly...but if they believed someone else gave them a better chance to win I bet they would make a change.

Clearly the power offense didn't work well enough against Kilgore last week. Seemed like they tried it most of the night and they just didn't match up well.

[GoodOleBoy73]

I do like the Eagles chances of sneaking into the playoffs though. It will be tough, but they are completely capable of an upset win over Pine Tree and/or Henderson. Just depends on which Eagle squad shows up.

[LetsGoEagles]

19 minutes ago, GoodOleBoy73 said:

You guys are crazy with the politics talk IMO. People saying that the coaches are bought...have clearly never held a job where getting hired and fired is based directly on the outcome of games dictated by 16-18 year old kids. I've always worked in the private sector, but I am close friends with several people who have spent some time coaching football in Northeast Texas and Southwest Arkansas.

Nobody wants to win more than the people in that building. We can all talk and say whatever we want publicly...but if they believed someone else gave them a better chance to win I bet they would make a change.

Clearly the power offense didn't work well enough against Kilgore last week. Seemed like they tried it most of the night and they just didn't match up well.

Not much worked against Kilgore. 

[HJR7]

I still see it as:

1. Kilgore

2. Pine Tree

3. Henderson 

4. Chapel Hill/Lindale

 

Anything can happen on a given Friday night.

[Footballfan99]

45 minutes ago, GoodOleBoy73 said:

You guys are crazy with the politics talk IMO. People saying that the coaches are bought...have clearly never held a job where getting hired and fired is based directly on the outcome of games dictated by 16-18 year old kids. I've always worked in the private sector, but I am close friends with several people who have spent some time coaching football in Northeast Texas and Southwest Arkansas.

Nobody wants to win more than the people in that building. We can all talk and say whatever we want publicly...but if they believed someone else gave them a better chance to win I bet they would make a change.

Clearly the power offense didn't work well enough against Kilgore last week. Seemed like they tried it most of the night and they just didn't match up well.

I'm just a fan of football, don't root for any particular team; just good football. It amazes me how fan bases can be so critical of coaches when they don't really know whats going on. Example; last year Gilmer was calling for Metzel to be fired after the 0-2 start. Then they got blew out by PG and they wanted him gone. Fast forward... they win state. 

As fans, we get to post everything after the fact, the "Hind sight is 20-20" point of view. In reality we don't know all the details of the situation. Now coaches, are not perfect- but there is a reason some of the programs; in this case Lindale- have had so much success year after year - great players and coaching. Don't be so quick to blame your coaching staff. You will push them out, get them fired and end up like Henderson. You don't know what you have until it's gone. (No shot at Hendo - just an observation.)

[GoodOleBoy73]

1 hour ago, LetsGoEagles said:

Not much worked against Kilgore. 

True. Kilgore has one of the best defenses in the State...no doubt about that. They are completely capable of winning a state championship.

[Jakeelee05]

2 hours ago, GoodOleBoy73 said:

You guys are crazy with the politics talk IMO. People saying that the coaches are bought...have clearly never held a job where getting hired and fired is based directly on the outcome of games dictated by 16-18 year old kids. I've always worked in the private sector, but I am close friends with several people who have spent some time coaching football in Northeast Texas and Southwest Arkansas.

Nobody wants to win more than the people in that building. We can all talk and say whatever we want publicly...but if they believed someone else gave them a better chance to win I bet they would make a change.

Clearly the power offense didn't work well enough against Kilgore last week. Seemed like they tried it most of the night and they just didn't match up well.

I’m not saying that it is political, I’m just saying that it’s a possibility. The starting qb’s parents are very we to do members of the Lindale community. Not saying it’s the coaches fault but they could be having their hands forced. Lindale absolutely does have a problem with there being a good ole boys club and if they want something to happen, it does. As far as the power run goes, no it didn’t completely work against Kilgore but it absolutely worked better than the regular offense. Just about every offensive series Lindale would start with the power offense and be driving and then all of a sudden here comes the regular offense and the drive stalled. It happened almost every time. Now do I believe we would have won if they only ran the power offense, no absolutely not. Kilgore is just a much better team