lionpride08 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2024/02/28/state-champion-texas-high-school-football-program-hit-with-recruiting-penalties?ref=article_preview_title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, lionpride08 said: https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2024/02/28/state-champion-texas-high-school-football-program-hit-with-recruiting-penalties?ref=article_preview_title 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogs3505 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 you gotta be really bad at recruiting to get caught recruiting. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blesseddaily Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 39 minutes ago, dogs3505 said: you gotta be really bad at recruiting to get caught recruiting. Or just make the wrong people mad!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just a slap on the wrist in my opinion ..... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 5 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: Just a slap on the wrist in my opinion ..... Most programs with the same violations would have gotten a much stiffer sentence .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 8 hours ago, dogs3505 said: you gotta be really bad at recruiting to get caught recruiting. Gilmer used to be the best. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKS21 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Now they need to go after all DISD schools doing the same thing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
903RedRaiders Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Believe it or not alot of School's do this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJR7 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 13 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: Most programs with the same violations would have gotten a much stiffer sentence .... Most programs do it with ease, this literally happens in every corner of Texas, and if you say it doesn't you have to be blind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROHOAlum Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 15 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: Most programs with the same violations would have gotten a much stiffer sentence .... Alto got hit harder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I think the biggest reason North Shore didnt get harder is the coach who was caught had only been there 1.5 years, the coach took full responsibility for the violations and the two kids he attempted to recruit never enrolled at North Shore. GPISD had a data driven presentation showing their program numbers, how many kids attended their MS, etc...the UIL commented on how well prepared they were....IMO there really was no evidence for a program wide-punishment for North Shore based on the hearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKTiger06 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 20 minutes ago, MattStepp said: I think the biggest reason North Shore didnt get harder is the coach who was caught had only been there 1.5 years, the coach took full responsibility for the violations and the two kids he attempted to recruit never enrolled at North Shore. GPISD had a data driven presentation showing their program numbers, how many kids attended their MS, etc...the UIL commented on how well prepared they were....IMO there really was no evidence for a program wide-punishment for North Shore based on the hearing Definitely hard to punish with the evidence given but what id didnt address is the fact that they start recruiting in middle school. We also see high profile recruits transferring there every summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 21 minutes ago, LKTiger06 said: Definitely hard to punish with the evidence given but what id didnt address is the fact that they start recruiting in middle school. We also see high profile recruits transferring there every summer. How do you address recruiting in MS without evidence of recruiting in middle school..the UIL can't go off "hey we heard ya'll were recruiting, tell us about that" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddG Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Hey, Desoto just got a QB, it’ll be his 3rd school in 3 years 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wedge Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 BREAKING NEWS: Water is Wet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootleg11 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Recruiting happens. And it's a shame that it's what high school sports have become. Although even in the 80's you'd hear about Permian boosters hiring people to get their kid to Odessa. But it seems more widespread now. Was talking to a coach in the Dallas area this winter that said when he was coaching in FWISD it was nothing new to see the football staff of a current football power and state champ show up and talk to kids at the FWISD junior high district track meets. Next thing you know the studs from those FWISD junior highs are enrolled at that school the next year. Cheating is only going to get worse now that we've let 7 on 7 become exactly like AAU basketball. At least Texas has their high school 7 on 7 summer series/championship. It's become a full blown disaster in other states. Their are other recent stories out there about coaches that cheated, won state champs and parlayed that into better coaching jobs at the Texas High School level. It's not that much unlike the NCAA football landscape lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I was working in a major school district. Had many high schools and the Athletic director had a some state titles and slid into a straight A.D. role. Good coach and good man. I remember he said "if you get caught recruiting you are going to get fired. But if you don't recruit you will probably get fired." No, he didn't say this in a huge meeting or anything this was in personal conversations with other HC's. But he is right. First, you have to do everything you can to keep your talent at your school especially if you are in a big metropolis area. This includes recruiting your own Jr. highs and recruiting your own dang H.S. Plus you never know, there could be talent walking the halls and you don't know it. Also, if there are sharks in the water and you do not go out and actively hunt you will starve. Unfortunately, recruiting is part of the business in some way shape or form. Because many of us have been on the losing end when a star athlete or athletes leave your school for a "better" school and when that happens you already know because of losses that season you might be looking for another job. It sucks because you wish it wasn't a part of the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Falcon Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 On 2/29/2024 at 12:49 PM, ROHOAlum said: Alto got hit harder Alto "got hit" for recruiting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldasdirt Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Alto’s entire football program got punished for the actions of one or two people. The kids had nothing to do with the violation, just like North Shore. The UIL’s justification was, in my interpretation, if the violation was committed by one or two people, then why punish the kids. Yep, if I were Alto, I’d be raising some eyebrows cause they got hit much harder! IMHO! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kooldown54 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Ask HKS, they’ll can give ya pointers on how not to get caught 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROHOAlum Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 51 minutes ago, 89Falcon said: Alto "got hit" for recruiting? Hence hit harder, as North Shore just got hit with recruiting what happened as an admin mistake turned to a coach ignoring it but the whole program punished harshly compared to NS Edited March 1 by ROHOAlum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon85 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 15 minutes ago, kooldown54 said: Ask HKS, they’ll can give ya pointers on how not to get caught Boy you just can't keep us outcha mouth huh? Do we taste a little salty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kooldown54 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Cannon85 said: Boy you just can't keep us outcha mouth huh? Do we taste a little salty? Notta bit! Keep doing what’cha do! Cause it always strikes a nerve! Edited March 1 by kooldown54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffersondawgs96 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) On 2/29/2024 at 8:10 AM, RKS21 said: Now they need to go after all DISD schools doing the same thing SOC is the only DISD school that's winning. I think DISD schools would be better if most of their kids were not being recruited. Most of their kids end up at the good suburban programs Edited March 2 by Jeffersondawgs96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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