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KirtFalcon Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 10 hours ago, DannyZuco said: Tell me which student DOES NOT have a choice.....Please, I'd love to know..... Abbott's donors are wanting to get their money back that they pay to send their angels to private schools, away from those "undesirables" that they don't want their kids around. There is suppose to be a surplus in Texas over the next 10 years. So Abbott, falling in line with his "donors" is trying to give TAXPAYER money to these people as a "school voucher"......Is it really that hard for you to understand.....I know you're old, but common man, NO ONE gives away money without something coming back to them. And yes, all students in Texas have a choice....just many of them are costly....which is NOT what you "conservative marxist" want to hear....... Hogwash ... Students from less affluent families don't have as much choice as more affluent students .... students in poorer districts have very few choices except the public school in their district ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokedOut Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 On 5/19/2024 at 8:49 PM, Coach Rab said: Abbott is a piece of crap. I’m disappointed that I voted for him until I remembered that BETO ran against him I agree. I’m getting a little tired of choosing for the least biggest piece of . The lesser of two evils, if you will. How about no evil? That is never on the ballot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokedOut Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 14 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: Hogwash ... Students from less affluent families don't have as much choice as more affluent students .... students in poorer districts have very few choices except the public school in their district ... Wouldn’t be wise to take some crucial resources from a poor rural school then would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, KirtFalcon said: Hogwash ... Students from less affluent families don't have as much choice as more affluent students .... students in poorer districts have very few choices except the public school in their district ... WRONG!!!!! Any student can go to another school out side their own district....they just have to get to the other school, NO dang voucher is going to pay for that. And really, which families are less affluent these days.....I don't know a single kid in high school that doesn't have their own computer/phone with them constantly. Plus, those in poorer districts have the CHOICE to home school any day of the week or year.....So don't give me this about lack of choice and blame it on affluency.....that is just your "go to" line that the RINOs give you when you know you have already lost the battle....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 54 minutes ago, SmokedOut said: Wouldn’t be wise to take some crucial resources from a poor rural school then would it? All Families have choices, the RINOs just want to pay you for your choice.....it's the JOE BIDEN way of giving money to people, but call it "choice"....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, SmokedOut said: Wouldn’t be wise to take some crucial resources from a poor rural school then would it? Who is for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 30 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: WRONG!!!!! Any student can go to another school out side their own district....they just have to get to the other school, NO dang voucher is going to pay for that. And really, which families are less affluent these days.....I don't know a single kid in high school that doesn't have their own computer/phone with them constantly. Plus, those in poorer districts have the CHOICE to home school any day of the week or year.....So don't give me this about lack of choice and blame it on affluency.....that is just your "go to" line that the RINOs give you when you know you have already lost the battle....... you make about as much sense as Meathead ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 “And yes, all students in Texas have a choice....just many of them are costly....which is NOT what you "conservative marxist" want to hear.......“ If you don’t have the money you don’t have a choice. You don’t have a choice to pay for that school either. But this sentence shows what Zuco really wants, the rich to have choices and the poors to have none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 14 hours ago, Youngcoach123 said: “And yes, all students in Texas have a choice....just many of them are costly....which is NOT what you "conservative marxist" want to hear.......“ If you don’t have the money you don’t have a choice. You don’t have a choice to pay for that school either. But this sentence shows what Zuco really wants, the rich to have choices and the poors to have none. Again, you have all choices, including homeschool. But keep buying into the lies that are school choice. And those inner city students have a lot more choices than those rural communities. But they all have choices. I guess it is EVERYONE's job to pay for your choices for your kids......That's the marxists way isn't it.....everyone pool their money and distribute it around. Because that is what Greg Abbott's voucher system is. So those of us who no longer have students in public education, are paying for some wet nose conservative marxists kids to go to private school. Yeah, that is just about right with the snow flake generation.....SMH 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 18 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: you make about as much sense as Meathead ... Ahhh, the RINO comeback, when your argument fails, start insulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 22 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: Ahhh, the RINO comeback, when your argument fails, start insulting. You would gripe if you were hung with a new rope ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 48 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: You would gripe if you were hung with a new rope ..... What am I griping about, I mean I am trying to tell you that your RINO governor is doing nothing more than a "joe biden" by giving away OUR tax dollars for school vouchers, when it doesn't help our property taxes, it takes away from public services....such as police, fire, DPS, Border issues, Highways & roads, plus education......and you seem to think he does this out of the "goodness" of his heart.....He's just trying to purchase your vote. By lying about "school choice"...and you fell for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 On 5/18/2024 at 1:55 PM, DannyZuco said: It's not about teacher's unions, it about a governor who is taking a page from the "biden" administration and giving people money they DO NOT DESERVE.....he just wants to give money to people for a voucher program that WILL NOT WORK, it does NOT work in other states and NEVER works for those that need it the most. Whoa there Hoss. It's not giving people money they don't deserve. Everyone pays for property taxes whether it is directly to the county tax accessors office, inflated rent or even higher retail prices charged by brick and mortar stores. I hope you realize that the push for vouchers is driven by parents who don't want their children indoctrinated in woke districts or ISD's that don't want to lose their federal funding. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 21 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: What am I griping about, I mean I am trying to tell you that your RINO governor is doing nothing more than a "joe biden" by giving away OUR tax dollars for school vouchers, when it doesn't help our property taxes, it takes away from public services....such as police, fire, DPS, Border issues, Highways & roads, plus education......and you seem to think he does this out of the "goodness" of his heart.....He's just trying to purchase your vote. By lying about "school choice"...and you fell for it " it takes away from public services....such as police, fire, DPS, Border issues, Highways & roads " .... you have no proof of that ....it's just wild speculation on your part .... you really are worse than Meathead ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, DannyZuco said: I guess it is EVERYONE's job to pay for your choices for your kids......That's the marxists way isn't it.....everyone pool their money and distribute it around. Because that is what Greg Abbott's voucher system is. Is that not the way it is now? Did they abandon the "robin hood" program? Are more affluent districts not also keeping the poor one's funded? Seems to me, and again, I'm admittedly pretty ignorant on the whole issue, but seems the difference between these "marxist schemes" is who gets the money? Parents to spend on their own kids, or austin to spend however they choose? I trust parents more than Austin. I might be way wrong, but if so, how? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, DannyZuco said: I guess it is EVERYONE's job to pay for your choices for your kids......That's the marxists way isn't it.....everyone pool their money and distribute it around. Because that is what Greg Abbott's voucher system is. So those of us who no longer have students in public education, are paying for some wet nose conservative marxists kids to go to private school. Yeah, that is just about right with the snow flake generation.....SMH 1. The Marxist way is to take your money and not give you your choice of where your child goes. 2. Rural schools have caved to the Federal woke programs to keep the dollars flowing. We had an incident here in Fredericksburg when the ISD tried to hide the fact that they were building all sex bathrooms in the new Jr High. All in the quest to retain federal funding. 3. Conservative Marxists? 4. Those of us who no longer have children in the education system or even before they were in school have always paid for public education. Have you ever looked at your tax statement? Unless you rent, then you wouldn't have a clue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 hours ago, Baron said: Whoa there Hoss. It's not giving people money they don't deserve. Everyone pays for property taxes whether it is directly to the county tax accessors office, inflated rent or even higher retail prices charged by brick and mortar stores. I hope you realize that the push for vouchers is driven by parents who don't want their children indoctrinated in woke districts or ISD's that don't want to lose their federal funding. First of all, the money abbott is wanting to use for vouchers comes from the sales tax supposedly surplus, not property taxes...read the entire thread before you start talking and it might catch you up on the real things happening. And woke ISD's wow, that's your answer, not in Texas numbskull....SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: " it takes away from public services....such as police, fire, DPS, Border issues, Highways & roads " .... you have no proof of that ....it's just wild speculation on your part .... you really are worse than Meathead ..... YES the proof is in where the money comes from.....sales tax revenue is suppose to be used for the public good, not school vouchers for donors.....YOU LOSE AGAIN....another numbskull.....read his plan before you talk again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 hours ago, DAWG91 said: Is that not the way it is now? Did they abandon the "robin hood" program? Are more affluent districts not also keeping the poor one's funded? Seems to me, and again, I'm admittedly pretty ignorant on the whole issue, but seems the difference between these "marxist schemes" is who gets the money? Parents to spend on their own kids, or austin to spend however they choose? I trust parents more than Austin. I might be way wrong, but if so, how? Another numbskull that has NOT read Abbott's plan of taking sale tax funds and giving it to people......Taking EVERYONE's money and spreading it out.....the true definition of socialism.....and again, robin hood started in the 1990s and the wonderful GOP legislature has had over 40 years to fix it.....and it's still not fixed. And parents can spend all their own money on their kids that they want to....but don't ask tax payers to pay for their private educations. With sale tax funds. I think all of you should read up on how Texas funds schools. You might be amazed at how bad it is. SMH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 hours ago, Baron said: 1. The Marxist way is to take your money and not give you your choice of where your child goes. 2. Rural schools have caved to the Federal woke programs to keep the dollars flowing. We had an incident here in Fredericksburg when the ISD tried to hide the fact that they were building all sex bathrooms in the new Jr High. All in the quest to retain federal funding. 3. Conservative Marxists? 4. Those of us who no longer have children in the education system or even before they were in school have always paid for public education. Have you ever looked at your tax statement? Unless you rent, then you wouldn't have a clue. Again, ABBOTT's VOUCHER PLAN IS USING SALES TAXES NOT PROPERTY TAXES...Research before you start talking out of the wrong side of your body.....SMH And anyone that believes Abbott is a conservative marxist or religious marxist.....the only difference between abbott and biden is the fact that abbott uses religion to enhance his money giveaways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 3 hours ago, DannyZuco said: Again, ABBOTT's VOUCHER PLAN IS USING SALES TAXES NOT PROPERTY TAXES...Research before you start talking out of the wrong side of your body.....SMH And anyone that believes Abbott is a conservative marxist or religious marxist.....the only difference between abbott and biden is the fact that abbott uses religion to enhance his money giveaways. So, let me get this straight. I think this numbskull might finally be getting it. They're taking EVERYONE'S SALE'S taxes, not just PROPERTY taxes, which means, EVERYONE'S got skin in the game now, not just TAX PAYER'S. Even the FREELOADER'S have to pay? Does that about sum it up? If yes, I now understand the outrage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 @DannyZuco Everyone understands your point of view, they just don’t agree with it. It’s going to be ok. The all caps needs to stop though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBizzle Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 On 5/20/2024 at 8:33 PM, BarryLaverty said: "Free" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, JBizzle said: "Free" The other problem with that meme is that it's not analogous. A better, more fitting analogy is if you wanted to learn golf, but you wanted the private lessons, but had to pay both the private AND public courses. That's a far more apt analogy. Edited May 22 by Monte1076 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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