MattStepp Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 3 hours ago, cowboyandchrist said: Did he loose any state championship games. He did not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 hours ago, 89Falcon said: That equals "8". if we are gonna count Surratt's state title as an OC, I think its fair to count Aledo's titles where Buchanan was the AD of the program he built 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 46 minutes ago, MattStepp said: if we are gonna count Surratt's state title as an OC, I think its fair to count Aledo's titles where Buchanan was the AD of the program he built If you’re counting SS total rings versus Buchanan total rings Buchanan leads, 11-10. As HC only SS leads, 9-8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 47 minutes ago, HearEmaGrowlin said: If you’re counting SS total rings versus Buchanan total rings Buchanan leads, 11-10. As HC only SS leads, 9-8. correct and Buchanan is retired now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Falcon Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 hours ago, MattStepp said: if we are gonna count Surratt's state title as an OC, I think its fair to count Aledo's titles where Buchanan was the AD of the program he built I am not counting any title for assistants or administrators. HC gets the wins and the losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacdragon07 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 san Benito san Francisco it really doesn't matter carthage by 20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 On 8/2/2024 at 4:26 PM, iRockNewbzz said: I see Lions7000 on more Carthage threads than Hendo I think he's actually a Dawg fan, just doesn't want to admit it yet I wouldn't go so far as to call him a fan, but he's definitely watched more Bulldog football than Lion football the last 10+ years! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion7000 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, DAWG91 said: I wouldn't go so far as to call him a fan, but he's definitely watched more Bulldog football than Lion football the last 10+ years! Not even close 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgdynasty Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 On 8/3/2024 at 1:19 PM, MattStepp said: if we are gonna count Surratt's state title as an OC, I think its fair to count Aledo's titles where Buchanan was the AD of the program he built If you're going to count Buchanan's AD rings then go ahead and count Surratts 9 AD rings and 9 HC rings for a total of 18 rings. There is a reason he is called "Lord of the Rings" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgdynasty Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 (edited) On 8/2/2024 at 10:45 AM, MattStepp said: As good as Surratt is, Buchanan is resume wise, his equal, he's got 8 rings as a head coach, 3 others as an AD of the program he built...not a math guy but that equals 11 rings Is Buc really "equal" to Surratt? HC Championships Surratt 9 > Buc 8 AD Championships Surratt 9 > Buc 3 HC/AD Total Rings Surratt 18 > Buc 11 Coaching Record Buc (25 seasons) 281-58-3 (.821%) Playoff Record 81-14 (.852%) 15 District Championships - 8 State Champs Surratt (17 seasons +) 218-30-0 (.879%). Playoff Record 75-8 (.903%) 15 District Championships - 9 State Champs Surratt is statistically better in EVERY single category. Plus did more in less seasons. Buc retires then Wood keeps winning. Buc comes back and keeps winning. Buc and Wood retire and Jones wins a ring. Is it the coach or is it the system?Orrrrrrrrrrrr......is it the endless D1 talent that "transfers" or "moves" into Aledo ISD. Very very convenient when your starting QB gets injured and low and behold a D1 QB just happens to "move' into the district from California (eye roll)!!! Edited August 9 by dawgdynasty 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyandchrist Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 4 hours ago, Lion7000 said: Not even close Lion I can order you a special made Bull Dawg sweat shirt if you would like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion7000 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 19 minutes ago, cowboyandchrist said: Lion I can order you a special made Bull Dawg sweat shirt if you would like. Good burning for fires goes good with longhorn gear as well. Makes no difference in the bulldogs all of it burns well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRockNewbzz Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 51 minutes ago, Lion7000 said: Good burning for fires goes good with longhorn gear as well. Makes no difference in the bulldogs all of it burns well! Now there's no reason to bring my 'Horns into the convo \m/ \m/ Big brother is back, tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion7000 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 25 minutes ago, iRockNewbzz said: Now there's no reason to bring my 'Horns into the convo \m/ \m/ Big brother is back, tho I knew something was wrong with you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 3 hours ago, dawgdynasty said: Is Buc really "equal" to Surratt? HC Championships Surratt 9 > Buc 8 AD Championships Surratt 9 > Buc 3 HC/AD Total Rings Surratt 18 > Buc 11 Coaching Record Buc (25 seasons) 281-58-3 (.821%) Playoff Record 81-14 (.852%) 15 District Championships - 8 State Champs Surratt (17 seasons +) 218-30-0 (.879%). Playoff Record 75-8 (.903%) 15 District Championships - 9 State Champs Surratt is statistically better in EVERY single category. Plus did more in less seasons. Buc retires then Wood keeps winning. Buc comes back and keeps winning. Buc and Wood retire and Jones wins a ring. Is it the coach or is it the system?Orrrrrrrrrrrr......is it the endless D1 talent that "transfers" or "moves" into Aledo ISD. Very very convenient when your starting QB gets injured and low and behold a D1 QB just happens to "move' into the district from California (eye roll)!!! Illustrious post, a tad hostile, but extremely informative. Yes, agree, their coaches have been and are fantastic; they’re no Surratt, no one is. And folks can eye roll if they want, but way, way, way more often than not when it’s all on the line he’s going to win. I’d like fans of other schools, certain fans of one school in particular (not Aledo), to be totally honest with themselves and answer if the state championship were on the line would they rather have their current coach or Scott Surratt on their side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRockNewbzz Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 That's what makes Carthage so hard to beat, is that truly Carthage has to "beat" themselves for opponents to win. Rarely, rarely, rarely can someone just lineup and beat them straight up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 29 minutes ago, iRockNewbzz said: That's what makes Carthage so hard to beat, is that truly Carthage has to "beat" themselves for opponents to win. Rarely, rarely, rarely can someone just lineup and beat them straight up Only time I have seen it with my own eyes was 2015 vs La Vega in the semis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, PantherNation2015 said: Only time I have seen it with my own eyes was 2015 vs La Vega in the semis. That one was doomed from the first play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 2 hours ago, PantherNation2015 said: Only time I have seen it with my own eyes was 2015 vs La Vega in the semis. They smoked us that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyandchrist Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 12 hours ago, PantherNation2015 said: Only time I have seen it with my own eyes was 2015 vs La Vega in the semis. As bad as I hate to admit it, China Spring with Major at QB beat my Dawgs. They outplayed us. They went on to beat Gilmer in the state championship. our defense was outstanding but our offense was very young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 34 minutes ago, cowboyandchrist said: As bad as I hate to admit it, China Spring with Major at QB beat my Dawgs. They outplayed us. They went on to beat Gilmer in the state championship. our defense was outstanding but our offense was very young. But Carthage competed with CS in that respectable loss. LV left zero doubt in 2015. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 35 minutes ago, cowboyandchrist said: As bad as I hate to admit it, China Spring with Major at QB beat my Dawgs. They outplayed us. They went on to beat Gilmer in the state championship. our defense was outstanding but our offense was very young. Oh yes, we were truly beaten that night too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion7000 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 14 hours ago, PantherNation2015 said: Only time I have seen it with my own eyes was 2015 vs La Vega in the semis. Such a wonderful team. Was great seeing that . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion7000 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 14 hours ago, iRockNewbzz said: That's what makes Carthage so hard to beat, is that truly Carthage has to "beat" themselves for opponents to win. Rarely, rarely, rarely can someone just lineup and beat them straight up Far and few in between. Cherish the moments and it’s ok to cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBizzle Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 So we got nothing about San Benito on this thread, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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