regaleagle Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 (edited) I think since Texas High School football is so competitive in our state and even nationally.....it's kind of ridiculous for the coaching staff not to divulge their true rosters each season. Some staffs at certain schools have no problem doing this, but I notice a trend going the other way.....seems a little pointless and not fair to the fans. In fact, you would think more disclosure would create an even better and more competitive atmosphere to not only start each season off, but to give the players their due recognition for the season. Most staffs alter their "bogus" rosters once the season begins. Edited August 13 by regaleagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nationalpastime Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Not every staff has enough people on their staff to keep things as updated and clean, as say, Argyle for example. Also, not every community really cares about all the facade that goes into roster reveals and all that. At the end of the day it's still about the kids on the field, not the kids and how they're presented on paper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion7000 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 I highly doubt coaches would do this ! Makes your program look better . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 I'm not following this... what are we talking about here? Examples? My experience says coaches tend to worry about rosters on two occasions: picture day and playoff games. Other than that, players can and will drop off or add on. Not sure what's the big deal. Is there a program out there who is abusing this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRockNewbzz Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Could be same reason players exchange jerseys or wear different # in pre-district than when district rolls around. Anything you can do to "hide your cards" do it. Many coaches use MaxPreps, 24/7, Etc to get height/weight on certain athletes, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlue Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Coaches will always do what they can do to keep people on their toes. Nothing new. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Introducing the 2024 Carthage Bulldogs 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatum_DirtyBird Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 16 minutes ago, DAWG91 said: Introducing the 2024 Carthage Bulldogs See, Carthage ain’t all that scary looking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Coaches are generally paranoid by nature...but if I get a bad roster and don't have a kids name or get a kids name wrong and the parent complains....I direct them to Coach lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 8 hours ago, Mr. P said: I'm not following this... what are we talking about here? Examples? My experience says coaches tend to worry about rosters on two occasions: picture day and playoff games. Other than that, players can and will drop off or add on. Not sure what's the big deal. Is there a program out there who is abusing this? I'm thinking that coaches do it to give themselves an edge. The NFL can't do it even with their IR list or they'll be fined for listing a player that is or isn't hurt on their injury reports. If they can get away with it, many coaches will to gain an advantage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 4 hours ago, MattStepp said: Coaches are generally paranoid by nature...but if I get a bad roster and don't have a kids name or get a kids name wrong and the parent complains....I direct them to Coach lol I can promise you if you look at Joaquin’s maxpreps page you’ll see several names that haven’t played football in at least 20 years or more, unless the new staff reset it. I think they do it as a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlue Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 For many years I either announced the local cable games or produced Pewitt's playoff programs. Getting the other towns rosters is tough but doable. It was easier back in the day when the opposing team appreciated their kids being promoted correctly. Not as easy anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEASTeastTX Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Hear me out….. who cares? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) 49 minutes ago, BEASTeastTX said: Hear me out….. who cares? Lol The parents for sure, but the media cares too Edited August 14 by MattStepp 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEASTeastTX Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, MattStepp said: The parents for sure, but the media cares too That’s different I think than what this guy is talking about. Coaches taking care of the media is just what should happen in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slingthetater Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 The rosters are automatically pulled by Maxpreps from Hudl. When kids go in and create their profile, they have the ability to enter their own information. Some coaches will go back and edit out the JV kids who end up on the Varsity roster. Some won't. If coaches don't do a good job making sure kids have their graduation year entered, they will end up on the roster each and every year. It always let me know who actually paid attention to that stuff when I was looking for names for scouting purposes. If parents or school board members have accounts on Hudl, they will show up on the roster as well unless they are checked as a coach on the Hudl roster. You actually have to opt out of Maxpreps automatically pulling your Hudl data rather than opt in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleTeam Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Man, don’t yall miss the days of waiting in Tyler till 3 or 4am Saturday morning to get your tapes processed and copied so you could drive and exchange with your next opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogbacker78 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 LOL I've seen some interesting stuff in my day. Of course there were the slower teams that would mow the grass taller, leave the sprinkler on overnight "accidentally," then there was this one school I worked for that marked their field about 5 yards wider, because they liked to run the sweep and have fairly good speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveragain Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 2 hours ago, DoubleTeam said: Man, don’t yall miss the days of waiting in Tyler till 3 or 4am Saturday morning to get your tapes processed and copied so you could drive and exchange with your next opponent. I got very lucky in my career...we were on the end of the line for on-site pickup so as soon as the game was over the filmer just handed the film to the guy and it was delivered to the field house by 10 AM the next morning. I missed out on the trip to Tyler as an assistant...seemed to always be someone who wanted to leave our dry county to go that way for some reason. By my 10th year or so we were doing dvds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, neveragain said: I got very lucky in my career...we were on the end of the line for on-site pickup so as soon as the game was over the filmer just handed the film to the guy and it was delivered to the field house by 10 AM the next morning. I missed out on the trip to Tyler as an assistant...seemed to always be someone who wanted to leave our dry county to go that way for some reason. By my 10th year or so we were doing dvds. That shows how time has flown by. Smith Co. didn't go wet until 2012, but that's another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveragain Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 They had to cross a couple of wet counties to get to Tyler...don't know if they made a purchase going or coming back...I wasn't at the top of the totem pole at that particular school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraysonFan Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 MaxPreps info is unreliable in a lot of areas. Don't rely on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 On 8/14/2024 at 12:44 PM, BEASTeastTX said: That’s different I think than what this guy is talking about. Coaches taking care of the media is just what should happen in my opinion That has to go both ways. If a coach sees where the local paper isn’t giving his team a fair shake in the weekly coverage, why should he feel the need to take care of the guy at said paper? I’m speaking from experience here. I was fortunate enough to be a freelance writer for a county newspaper, and during football season I was assigned one team. I would go cover other teams if my team had the week off or got eliminated from the playoffs. I had the pleasure of meeting a lot of football coaches, and I feel like I learned at least a little from all of them. I tried not to bother them too much, because IMO, they have a really tough job. However, on the rare occasion that I needed a favor, I could usually get it with a text message. In return, I gave that staff instant access to my stats, and would email them to both coordinators within minutes of the end of the game. I also made sure that I painted the kids and coaches in a positive light in my articles every week. So “taking care of the media” is definitely a two way street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveragain Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) Many coaches don't consider the roster set until the week of the first game. I would hope by then they would have something for the media and certainly the onsite game program...whether home or away. I do know that it is difficult to remember to keep all of the potential media outlets informed of changes during the season because coaches probably don't know which papers covers their opponents and to be honest, small schools struggle to get accurate coverage from tv and newspaper reports...if they get any coverage at all. There are also some coaches who think they gain an advantage by keeping as much as possible secret until the last moment. Edited August 17 by neveragain spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackShirtD Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 On 8/13/2024 at 12:32 PM, DAWG91 said: Introducing the 2024 Carthage Bulldogs That’s too funny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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