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33 minutes ago, Valhalla said:

I still continue to say that the Florida job is the most overrated job in the country.

It's not though.  All you have to do is out recruit FSU and Miami to be the best in Florida.  No idea how a program like that ends up like they are now though unless Spurrier and Meyer were miracle workers.

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42 minutes ago, Coach Rab said:

It's not though.  All you have to do is out recruit FSU and Miami to be the best in Florida.  No idea how a program like that ends up like they are now though unless Spurrier and Meyer were miracle workers.

Florida has only been excellent when they have two historically great coaches. Spurrie and Meyer would have success anywhere.

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On 9/3/2024 at 8:45 AM, Valhalla said:

Florida has only been excellent when they have two historically great coaches. Spurrie and Meyer would have success anywhere.

and did..

 

The question will be who would take this rebuild in an era where you aren't given time to rebuild. I think Napier can coach but at that level there's so much more that goes into it. 

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On 9/4/2024 at 10:49 AM, Truemotion said:

and did..

 

The question will be who would take this rebuild in an era where you aren't given time to rebuild. I think Napier can coach but at that level there's so much more that goes into it. 

what about Meyer? 

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43 minutes ago, Tex85 said:

what about Meyer? 

I wouldn’t want to the baggage is pretty bad plus hardly works out the second time around. I could see Jimbo going back there but most likely an up and coming guy!

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6 hours ago, Truemotion said:

I doubt he ever coaches again.. I could be wrong but they want to win and it nearly killed him the last time he was there. 

 

He just couldn't beat Saban, and now Saban is gone.  He might take the job, and if Napier keeps losing the Gators might be desperate enough to bring him back.  

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On 9/4/2024 at 10:49 AM, Truemotion said:

and did..

 

The question will be who would take this rebuild in an era where you aren't given time to rebuild. I think Napier can coach but at that level there's so much more that goes into it. 

Florida would have to go after a big name coach whose tenure has grown stale at a blue blood, for instance Ryan Day. What if Ohio State loses to Oregon for the B1G title? Day might want to find another school to start over. Up and coming G5 coaches have been miss more than hit.

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On 9/3/2024 at 7:27 AM, Valhalla said:

I still continue to say that the Florida job is the most overrated job in the country.

I’m starting to think A&M is one of the most overrated and I’m not trying to be negative about A&M just objective.

A&M, like Florida, are in a tough conference and seem to be in a funk, but now big brother and big cousin have returned and the Aggies no longer have any kind of possible recruiting advantage.

They have a rabid fanbase, but overly involved Big Money Ags who STILL encourage Old Army thinking and the decisions they make are ill advised more often than not.

A&M has never been able to get out of its own way.  I’ve had a good Aggie graduate friend of mine suggest BMA’s should just quit wasting money on football, because A&M, as a whole, just doesn’t know how to win no matter what they try.

You do have to give them credit for continuing to try and not giving up, but some Aggies are just beaten down and don’t even pay attention anymore. 

All the Aggies I work with, one who walked on as a safety and was pushing to get playing time didn’t say a word after the Notre Dame game.

Previous years would’ve seen those same guys throwing fits, because they were still invested and had hope.

I do still say if A&M lands the right coach they can win big, national title big, but you can’t hire a HC because, “He’d be a good Ag or he understands our traditions..” quit with that foolishness and hire a winner.

I know when A&M hired Jimbo they were hiring someone who’d won a title and had lots of success, but he was also in my opinion, hired, because Aggie leadership thought he’d be a Good Aggie, no doubt; and he did fit in pretty well for a while.

Elko = Good Aggie hire

Anyhow, I think the A&M culture and traditions are hurting more than helping.

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Over reacting and reaching for the stars, A&M will be fine no one was predicting a National Championship especially an undefeated season. Losing to the Irish isn’t the same as losing to Kansas or struggling Will Houston! 

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1 hour ago, Lion7000 said:

Over reacting and reaching for the stars, A&M will be fine no one was predicting a National Championship especially an undefeated season. Losing to the Irish isn’t the same as losing to Kansas or struggling Will Houston! 

You’re correct about the loss to ND isn’t a bad loss, but man, it’s the same thing every year for the past 25 years just like the Cowboys.

I love the Cowboys, but have zero expectations for them and do not listen to any of the sunshine pumping before the season, because of what we’ve experienced after the triplets time ended (bunch of high expectations, but nothing to show for it).

Florida has reached the mountaintop and absolutely dominated college football during the Tebow Era and was great during the Spurrier Era.

It’s hard for me to agree with @Valhallacalling a university like Florida who has won multiple national championships as the most overrated coaching job when there are some recently highly thought of programs who have potential, but always fall short - history does matter.

A&M has never won anything in the modern era, but has great potential. 

The truth is we all thought (especially you Aggies) with the move to the SEC the Aggies may possibly after about six to eight years in that conference move up the pecking order, win the conference and a national championship due to the boost in recruiting.
That never happened and A&M has been middle of the pack the whole time; now Texas and Oklahoma are back in their conference..the move to the SEC did improve recruiting, but the results have been the same.

The results may improve, but now with new old rivals back in the mix..

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1 hour ago, Lion7000 said:

Over reacting and reaching for the stars, A&M will be fine no one was predicting a National Championship especially an undefeated season. Losing to the Irish isn’t the same as losing to Kansas or struggling Will Houston! 

20___ National Champions ring a bell???  Nobody huh?  It’s not just losing to Notre Dame this week, it’s years worth of decisions.  Look no further than your baseball hire. Its always aTm will be fine.  We know what we are doing. Lol

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1 hour ago, HearEmaGrowlin said:

You’re correct about the loss to ND isn’t a bad loss, but man, it’s the same thing every year for the past 25 years just like the Cowboys.

I love the Cowboys, but have zero expectations for them and do not listen to any of the sunshine pumping before the season, because of what we’ve experienced after the triplets time ended (bunch of high expectations, but nothing to show for it).

Florida has reached the mountaintop and absolutely dominated college football during the Tebow Era and was great during the Spurrier Era.

It’s hard for me to agree with @Valhallacalling a university like Florida who has won multiple national championships as the most overrated coaching job when there are some recently highly thought of programs who have potential, but always fall short - history does matter.

A&M has never won anything in the modern era, but has great potential. 

The truth is we all thought (especially you Aggies) with the move to the SEC the Aggies may possibly after about six to eight years in that conference move up the pecking order, win the conference and a national championship due to the boost in recruiting.
That never happened and A&M has been middle of the pack the whole time; now Texas and Oklahoma are back in their conference..the move to the SEC did improve recruiting, but the results have been the same.

The results may improve, but now with new old rivals back in the mix..

A&M has never had an all time great coach like Urban Meyer. 

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57 minutes ago, YeahBuddy said:

20___ National Champions ring a bell???  Nobody huh?  It’s not just losing to Notre Dame this week, it’s years worth of decisions.  Look no further than your baseball hire. Its always aTm will be fine.  We know what we are doing. Lol

Cool story? Glad you’re concerned!

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1 hour ago, HearEmaGrowlin said:

You’re correct about the loss to ND isn’t a bad loss, but man, it’s the same thing every year for the past 25 years just like the Cowboys.

I love the Cowboys, but have zero expectations for them and do not listen to any of the sunshine pumping before the season, because of what we’ve experienced after the triplets time ended (bunch of high expectations, but nothing to show for it).

Florida has reached the mountaintop and absolutely dominated college football during the Tebow Era and was great during the Spurrier Era.

It’s hard for me to agree with @Valhallacalling a university like Florida who has won multiple national championships as the most overrated coaching job when there are some recently highly thought of programs who have potential, but always fall short - history does matter.

A&M has never won anything in the modern era, but has great potential. 

The truth is we all thought (especially you Aggies) with the move to the SEC the Aggies may possibly after about six to eight years in that conference move up the pecking order, win the conference and a national championship due to the boost in recruiting.
That never happened and A&M has been middle of the pack the whole time; now Texas and Oklahoma are back in their conference..the move to the SEC did improve recruiting, but the results have been the same.

The results may improve, but now with new old rivals back in the mix..

Fair enough 

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20 hours ago, Truemotion said:

I doubt he ever coaches again.. I could be wrong but they want to win and it nearly killed him the last time he was there. 

 

Yea it was so bad he ended up at Ohio state what a year later. I dont know if he coaches again either but if you're Florida I would think hes got to be near the top of their list of calls after Napier is gone. 

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1 hour ago, Lion7000 said:

What would stop them ? Kinda unfair statement!

Well, the one thing that would stop A&M from getting a great coach is A&M itself like I referenced earlier.

Aggies love to hire people they believe will fit into their culture and value that dang near as much as hiring a winner.

Example: A&M would never hire Pete Carroll.

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7 minutes ago, HearEmaGrowlin said:

Well, the one thing that would stop A&M from getting a great coach is A&M itself like I referenced earlier.

Aggies love to hire people they believe will fit into their culture and value that dang near as much as hiring a winner.

Example: A&M would never hire Pete Carroll.

USC didn't even want Pete Carroll that bad. He was like their 3rd choice. 

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