2024-25 Week 7 NCAA Preview and Discussion Thread

[Coach Rab]

Saturday October 12, 2024

South Carolina at #7 Alabama  11:00 AM  ABC

#1 Texas at #18 Oklahoma  2:30 PM  ABC

#4 Penn State at USC  2:30 PM  CBS

#2 Ohio State at #3 Oregon  6:30 PM  NBC

#9 Ole Miss at #13 LSU  6:30 PM  ABC

#18 Kansas State at Colorado  9:15 PM  ESPN

[Coach Rab]

South Carolina at #7 Alabama  11:00 AM  ABC

I have this one listed because its the Bama rebound game.  Bama is favored by 21 points.  I full expect them to cover and not make this much of a game, but if it is close, watch out for SEC chaos.

#1 Texas at #18 Oklahoma  2:30 PM  ABC

THE RED RIVER SHOOTOUT is always one to watch.  It never really matters how good either of these teams are, expect it to be full of passion and scoring... Except, I like the defense of both of these teams.  I have been a Texas fan boy all season due to the speed of their defense, so I will pick that as my difference maker and go with Texas 24, OU 17.

#4 Penn State at USC  2:30 PM  CBS

We could see another top 10 go down this week.  USC is top 15 talent, but it hasn't shown on the field enough to earn that ranking.  I have them winning it in an upset.  USC 34. Penn State 30.

#2 Ohio State at #3 Oregon  6:30 PM  NBC

The marquee match-up of week 7.  There should be a lot of fireworks in this one.  I feel like this is the game that Ohio State is built for, while I still have a lot of questions about the legitimacy of Oregon.  I think there will be at least 8 big plays in this game that will push the score around the 40s for both teams.  I am going to go with Ohio State 41, Oregon 38.

#9 Ole Miss at #13 LSU  6:30 PM  ABC

I am not worried about LSU's offense.  The Nuss Bus is great.  The WRs are good.  The RBs are good.  The defense is ........  Well, can LSU keep up with Ole Miss's offensive pace?  Can they limit the big play?  The capability is there, I just don't trust them.  Ole Miss 30, LSU 27.

#18 Kansas State at Colorado  9:15 PM  ESPN

The TV darling vs the Big XII ninja.  They hide in the B12 bushes then jump out and assassinate the conference.  I put this on here though because it was an interesting late game.  Colorado has shown some flashes of being able to beat some good teams, while also showing flashes of being able to lose to some terrible teams.  Kansas State is too consistent of a college football team to allow momentum to defeat them.  K State 27 Colorado 10.

Edited October 7 by Mr. P
Corrected the name of the Red River Shootout because Mav is a commie libtard who hates America.

[RETIREDFAN1]

1 hour ago, Coach Rab said:

South Carolina at #7 Alabama  11:00 AM  ABC

I have this one listed because its the Bama rebound game.  Bama is favored by 21 points.  I full expect them to cover and not make this much of a game, but if it is close, watch out for SEC chaos.

#1 Texas at #18 Oklahoma  2:30 PM  ABC

RRR is always one to watch.  It never really matters how good either of these teams are, expect it to be full of passion and scoring... Except, I like the defense of both of these teams.  I have been a Texas fan boy all season due to the speed of their defense, so I will pick that as my difference maker and go with Texas 24, OU 17.

#4 Penn State at USC  2:30 PM  CBS

We could see another top 10 go down this week.  USC is top 15 talent, but it hasn't shown on the field enough to earn that ranking.  I have them winning it in an upset.  USC 34. Penn State 30.

#2 Ohio State at #3 Oregon  6:30 PM  NBC

The marquee match-up of week 7.  There should be a lot of fireworks in this one.  I feel like this is the game that Ohio State is built for, while I still have a lot of questions about the legitimacy of Oregon.  I think there will be at least 8 big plays in this game that will push the score around the 40s for both teams.  I am going to go with Ohio State 41, Oregon 38.

#9 Ole Miss at #13 LSU  6:30 PM  ABC

I am not worried about LSU's offense.  The Nuss Bus is great.  The WRs are good.  The RBs are good.  The defense is ........  Well, can LSU keep up with Ole Miss's offensive pace?  Can they limit the big play?  The capability is there, I just don't trust them.  Ole Miss 30, LSU 27.

#18 Kansas State at Colorado  9:15 PM  ESPN

The TV darling vs the Big XII ninja.  They hide in the B12 bushes then jump out and assassinate the conference.  I put this on here though because it was an interesting late game.  Colorado has shown some flashes of being able to beat some good teams, while also showing flashes of being able to lose to some terrible teams.  Kansas State is too consistent of a college football team to allow momentum to defeat them.  K State 27 Colorado 10.

Don't be a libnut.....it's the Red River Shootout.........  

[thegreatbambino]

 

[ETXfan16]

The Ohio State/Oregon game is going to be very interesting. Is Oregon really that good? Is Ohio State that elite?

Oregon hasn't looked like the #3 team imo, and Ohio State on paper is insane, but they haven't played anybody with a pulse. I'm looking forward to watching this one.

[Mr. P]

5 hours ago, RETIREDFAN1 said:

Don't be a libnut.....it's the Red River Shootout.........  

I took care of it.  

6 hours ago, Coach Rab said:

#1 Texas at #18 Oklahoma  2:30 PM  ABC

Even if our defense plays a perfect game, our offensive line and wideouts are scout team at best. We struggled mightily to score even 20 points against Auburn (pick-six doesn't count), and their defense is nothing compared to Texas. 

Compounding this will be too many Oklahoma three-and-outs, giving UT way too many chances with the ball. I just don't see us holding them under 30+ points. 

Yeah yeah, I know, but this ain't my usual RRS doom-posting. This is an objective assessment of performance vs. performance.  

UT wins 38-16. 

[WETSU]

LSU is going to beat Ole Miss. 

 

[Red90fly]

3 hours ago, Mr. P said:

I took care of it.  

Even if our defense plays a perfect game, our offensive line and wideouts are scout team at best. We struggled mightily to score even 20 points against Auburn (pick-six doesn't count), and their defense is nothing compared to Texas. 

Compounding this will be too many Oklahoma three-and-outs, giving UT way too many chances with the ball. I just don't see us holding them under 30+ points. 

Yeah yeah, I know, but this ain't my usual RRS doom-posting. This is an objective assessment of performance vs. performance.  

UT wins 38-16. 

Nothing is surprising in this game after Charlie Strong and Jerrod Heard at QB beat a playoff OU team.

Edited October 7 by Red90fly

[Lion7000]

[Valhalla]

10 hours ago, Mr. P said:

I took care of it.  

Even if our defense plays a perfect game, our offensive line and wideouts are scout team at best. We struggled mightily to score even 20 points against Auburn (pick-six doesn't count), and their defense is nothing compared to Texas. 

Compounding this will be too many Oklahoma three-and-outs, giving UT way too many chances with the ball. I just don't see us holding them under 30+ points. 

Yeah yeah, I know, but this ain't my usual RRS doom-posting. This is an objective assessment of performance vs. performance.  

UT wins 38-16. 

Are we sure that Texas’ defense is really that good? 
 

Who have they played that could even test them?

Edited October 8 by Valhalla

[Mr. P]

1 hour ago, Valhalla said:

Are we sure that Texas’ defense is really that good? Who have they played that could even test them?

They held Michigan and Miss. State under 300 total yards... that's not nothing. 

Our total offense has been averaging under 300 yards per game against piss-poor competition. 

I understand that you're skeptical about UT's hype. But it's a moot point relative to RRS. 

They're better than we are. Saturday won't be a close game. 

[Valhalla]

6 hours ago, Mr. P said:

They held Michigan and Miss. State under 300 total yards... that's not nothing. 

Our total offense has been averaging under 300 yards per game against piss-poor competition. 

I understand that you're skeptical about UT's hype. But it's a moot point relative to RRS. 

They're better than we are. Saturday won't be a close game. 

I don’t think we could expose issues that Texas could have on defense, but I don’t think anyone they have played yet could expose them either. 

[iRockNewbzz]

53 minutes ago, Valhalla said:

I don’t think we could expose issues that Texas could have on defense, but I don’t think anyone they have played yet could expose them either. 

I think ALOT of  OC's are having that issue, and even though I bleed burnt orange, I'm sitting here trying to think of how an opposing OC might attack us. I think MSU had decent game plan, but then again you can't just run 95% of time vs us. [Not enough weapons] Our Run D could be little better, think we give up few too many yards up the middle but when you lose Sweat and Murphy that tends to happen but the guys replacing have been decent. At LB, Hill Jr is all over the place and when he keeps his eyes up Gbenda is a very good run stopping LB. In the secondary, Good Luck. Muhammed as our boundary Corner is lockdown, Barron has played well at Field CB[and Holmes], and when you sprinkle in Taffee and Gilbeau rarely are things open.

Yes, we haven't played a lot of competition but we're also doing things were supposed to in those games. I know oU defense is solid, I just don't believe they have enough firepower on O to score enough to actually win this game. Hook'em \m/ \m/

[ETXfan16]

14 hours ago, Lion7000 said:

[ETXfan16]

10 hours ago, Valhalla said:

Are we sure that Texas’ defense is really that good? 
 

Who have they played that could even test them?

They are better than they were last year on defense. Last year the run D was a straight up a brick wall, but the secondary was atrocious. 

This year, while maybe not as dominant against the run, they are more balanced across the board. Say what you will about Michigan, but even playing teams that know they can't throw the ball, they still are rushing for an average of 191 yards a game... they rushed for a total of 80 against Texas. I mean, they beat USC by only throwing for 32 yards.

[Mr. P]

2 hours ago, Valhalla said:

I don’t think we could expose issues that Texas could have on defense, but I don’t think anyone they have played yet could expose them either. 

Meh, I think UT's schedule is largely irrelevant. Maybe they've been tested. Maybe not. It doesn't really matter. Our offensive inconsistency is a real concern. We can't score against air. It doesn't matter if UT is soft or hard, because either way we're our own worst enemy. We can't sustain drives, our defense will be on the field too long, Quinn/Arch will have ample opportunity with the ball, which will over time wear down our defense. The resulting halftime deficit will make our playcalling more desperate and frenetic, which will become a vicious cycle that leads to more three-and-outs and even more snaps by an already weary defense. As we become increasingly one-dimensional, Texas's pass rush will tee off, resulting in multiple turnovers. The game could quickly snowball into a 30- to 40-point blowout. The loss will undoubtedly cause a crisis of confidence throughout the program. Recruits will de-commit en masse, leading to continued years of subpar seasons. Our fanbase and enrollment will dwindle, causing financial strain on the athletic department. As OU's prestige plummets, it will trigger a domino effect in the SEC, destabilizing the entire conference. This chaos will spread to other Power 5 conferences, eventually collapsing the entire NCAA structure. The resulting power vacuum in college sports will lead to a societal breakdown, as millions of fans lose their primary source of entertainment and tribal affiliation. Riots erupt in college towns across America, spreading to major cities and causing a global economic meltdown. Governments worldwide will fall, ushering in an age of anarchy. Scientific progress grinds to a halt, resources dwindle, and civilization spirals out of control, humanity is forced underground, eking out a meager existence in vast subterranean bunkers. Centuries later, as the last fusion reactor flickers out, the remnants of humanity might reflect on how it all began with one fateful football game in Dallas. And as the final human breath escapes into the stale air of a dying world, the universe itself might shudder and begin its inexorable march toward heat death, all because our offense couldn't convert on third down. 

I just hope Michael Hawkins doesn't get injured. He's the only spark on offense we have at this point. 

[ETXfan16]

56 minutes ago, iRockNewbzz said:

I think ALOT of  OC's are having that issue, and even though I bleed burnt orange, I'm sitting here trying to think of how an opposing OC might attack us. I think MSU had decent game plan, but then again you can't just run 95% of time vs us. [Not enough weapons] Our Run D could be little better, think we give up few too many yards up the middle but when you lose Sweat and Murphy that tends to happen but the guys replacing have been decent. At LB, Hill Jr is all over the place and when he keeps his eyes up Gbenda is a very good run stopping LB. In the secondary, Good Luck. Muhammed as our boundary Corner is lockdown, Barron has played well at Field CB[and Holmes], and when you sprinkle in Taffee and Gilbeau rarely are things open.

Yes, we haven't played a lot of competition but we're also doing things were supposed to in those games. I know oU defense is solid, I just don't believe they have enough firepower on O to score enough to actually win this game. Hook'em \m/ \m/

Everyone wants to say that MSU game was "close", but if Blue doesn't fumble in the redzone twice, that's a 49-13 win. I know I know, the "what if" is dumb, but that's uncharacteristic of him to have that happen twice in one game. He's been solid with the ball up until that point. MSU did a good job holding possession, but at no point were they winning that game. It wasn't Texas struggling with MSU, it was Texas struggling against Texas... and they still won by 22.

[ETXfan16]

3 minutes ago, Mr. P said:

Meh, I think UT's schedule is largely irrelevant. Maybe they've been tested. Maybe not. It doesn't really matter. Our offensive inconsistency is a real concern. We can't score against air. It doesn't matter if UT is soft or hard, because either way we're our own worst enemy. We can't sustain drives, our defense will be on the field too long, Quinn/Arch will have ample opportunity with the ball, which will over time wear down our defense. The resulting halftime deficit will make our playcalling more desperate and frenetic, which will become a vicious cycle that leads to more three-and-outs and even more snaps by an already weary defense. As we become increasingly one-dimensional, Texas's pass rush will tee off, resulting in multiple turnovers. The game could quickly snowball into a 30- to 40-point blowout. The loss will undoubtedly cause a crisis of confidence throughout the program. Recruits will de-commit en masse, leading to continued years of subpar seasons. Our fanbase and enrollment will dwindle, causing financial strain on the athletic department. As OU's prestige plummets, it will trigger a domino effect in the SEC, destabilizing the entire conference. This chaos will spread to other Power 5 conferences, eventually collapsing the entire NCAA structure. The resulting power vacuum in college sports will lead to a societal breakdown, as millions of fans lose their primary source of entertainment and tribal affiliation. Riots erupt in college towns across America, spreading to major cities and causing a global economic meltdown. Governments worldwide will fall, ushering in an age of anarchy. Scientific progress grinds to a halt, resources dwindle, and civilization spirals out of control, humanity is forced underground, eking out a meager existence in vast subterranean bunkers. Centuries later, as the last fusion reactor flickers out, the remnants of humanity might reflect on how it all began with one fateful football game in Dallas. And as the final human breath escapes into the stale air of a dying world, the universe itself might shudder and begin its inexorable march toward heat death, all because our offense couldn't convert on third down. 

I just hope Michael Hawkins doesn't get injured. He's the only spark on offense we have at this point. 

[Lobo97]

1 minute ago, ETXfan16 said:

Everyone wants to say that MSU game was "close", but if Blue doesn't fumble in the redzone twice, that's a 49-13 win. I know I know, the "what if" is dumb, but that's uncharacteristic of him to have that happen twice in one game. He's been solid with the ball up until that point. MSU did a good job holding possession, but at no point were they winning that game. It wasn't Texas struggling with MSU, it was Texas struggling against Texas... and they still won by 22.

Don't forget the deep pass that Cooks dropped on 3rd down that would have been a TD. The next play was a punt. That's 56.

[iRockNewbzz]

1 minute ago, ETXfan16 said:

Everyone wants to say that MSU game was "close", but if Blue doesn't fumble in the redzone twice, that's a 49-13 win. I know I know, the "what if" is dumb, but that's uncharacteristic of him to have that happen twice in one game. He's been solid with the ball up until that point. MSU did a good job holding possession, but at no point were they winning that game. It wasn't Texas struggling with MSU, it was Texas struggling against Texas... and they still won by 22.

Yeah, you're exactly right; I forgot about Bleu's fumbles inside the redzone. I think I was just referring maybe teams that have run sustaining drives might be better approach vs us than airing it out but then again, Pete will have some run blitzes thrown in if get too predictable

[iRockNewbzz]

1 minute ago, Lobo97 said:

Don't forget the deep pass that Cooks dropped on 3rd down that would have been a TD. The next play was a punt. That's 56.

That drop was something else. More open than a 7Eleven, just unfortunately dropped

[ETXfan16]

2 minutes ago, Lobo97 said:

Don't forget the deep pass that Cooks dropped on 3rd down that would have been a TD. The next play was a punt. That's 56.

Thank you, I knew there was a 3rd key play I missed lol

[ETXfan16]

2 minutes ago, iRockNewbzz said:

Yeah, you're exactly right; I forgot about Bleu's fumbles inside the redzone. I think I was just referring maybe teams that have run sustaining drives might be better approach vs us than airing it out but then again, Pete will have some run blitzes thrown in if get too predictable

I agree. Based off of the games so far, it almost seems like Texas is sacrificing sacks for better coverage. I know that sounds stupid, but it kind of seems that way lol.

Although, Collin Simmons is certainly becoming a machine at the end position.

[Lobo97]

While I do appreciate seeing and hearing OU fans talk down on their team, lol, this game is not the same as any others. 

 

As I've stated several times, I don't care how good one team is and how bad the other is; I don't care what each team is ranked; I don't care who's out injured while the other team is healthy. NONE of those things matter in this game and we all know it.

 

Texas could very well give up 5 points per game in every game this season and still give up 40 in this one. 

OU could very well score 12 ppg in every game this season and still score 40 in this one. 

[Valhalla]

12 minutes ago, ETXfan16 said:

They are better than they were last year on defense. Last year the run D was a straight up a brick wall, but the secondary was atrocious. 

This year, while maybe not as dominant against the run, they are more balanced across the board. Say what you will about Michigan, but even playing teams that know they can't throw the ball, they still are rushing for an average of 191 yards a game... they rushed for a total of 80 against Texas. I mean, they beat USC by only throwing for 32 yards.

I get what you are saying, but what competent passing offense have they faced?

It won’t be Oklahoma. Georgia next week might be the first and only test in the regular season.