VerumDixit Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 hour ago, CreateMyAccount said: It has been officially the last few years, prior to that, they competed in the open competition and only a few would even qualify, let alone place highly. This is much more fair to the schools because before it was like comparing apples to oranges. There was already a yearly "state competition" for military bands as well, it just was ran solely by NAMMB if I recall correctly. Only thing now is that it is ran by the UIL. I think it was weak move IMO. The quality military bands still qualified. Now they just get a 1 rating and go. It is way too easy. Its like splitting the football playoffs by offensive scheme. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodOleBoy73 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) 51 minutes ago, VerumDixit said: I think it was weak move IMO. The quality military bands still qualified. Now they just get a 1 rating and go. It is way too easy. Its like splitting the football playoffs by offensive scheme. Exactly...it's nothing like the "D1 vs D2" argument because it has nothing to do with the number of available kids. Has to do with which style of band you CHOOSE to have (same as which style of offense or defense your favorite team decides to run on a Friday night) Edited October 30 by GoodOleBoy73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion7000 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 hours ago, Mavchamp said: Yet you took the time to not only open a thread you don’t like…. But comment on it too. The very definition of trolling. Scroll on, brother Even I got that kinda self awareness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 30 Author Share Posted October 30 https://c.streamhoster.com/embed/media/WasBNW/OkdiSASLs2B/r/kgas live stream for those that want to see 5A/6A today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 4 hours ago, Bclove05 said: I never realized it was mainly East Texas schools competing. Sabine made it last year so that was the first time I actually paid attention. I do remember think East Texas has some really good marching bands. With that being said, I know these kids work their tails off so it’s nice to see the UIL recognize them. East Texas may have some really good bands, but I did notice that only 1 East Texas school made it to the 5A state marching contest next Monday. I haven’t looked at lower levels but I think most 4A area contests are this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 hours ago, blesseddaily said: He's got a point...my grandson is a member of a very good band that has qualified for the state championship. I would have loved to post all about it in this section where it would be seen but I know it is against the rules. I posted it in the "band" section where maybe 4 people would see it...just the way it is for most of us...just sayin! If your kid’s band wins state, we would likely let it sit here for a few days then move it. We have always allowed it to a degree. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 30 Author Share Posted October 30 10 minutes ago, Coach Rab said: East Texas may have some really good bands, but I did notice that only 1 East Texas school made it to the 5A state marching contest next Monday. I haven’t looked at lower levels but I think most 4A area contests are this weekend. Mount Pleasant is the first East Texas 5A/6A band to make it to state in more than 25 years of my paying attention. Tyler Legacy and Marshall have come close a few times...but always just missed out. In the area round..... Mt. Pleasant and Marshall were the only 2 East Texas 5A/6A to make it to the area finals. MP advanced as #3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 minute ago, Mavchamp said: Mount Pleasant is the first East Texas 5A/6A band to make it to state in more than 25 years of my paying attention. Tyler Lee and Marshall have come close a few times...but always just missed out. In the area round..... Mt. Pleasant and Marshall were the only 2 Easy Texas 5A/6A to make it to the finals. MP advanced as #3. I’ll let the MP fans know how it goes for them. I don’t think I am going to stay all day but I’m going to catch Aledo and about 4 performances before and after them. If Aledo makes finals, I will be there for all Of the Tuesday performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 30 Author Share Posted October 30 2 hours ago, VerumDixit said: I think it was weak move IMO. The quality military bands still qualified. Now they just get a 1 rating and go. It is way too easy. Its like splitting the football playoffs by offensive scheme. It's definitely easier to make it to state in military than corps. You only have to make a first division at region to qualify for state in military. In corps style....because of the huge increase in numbers..... you have to get a first division at region... then go to area and finish in the top 4. So there's an additional "round" to advance through that military doesn't have. But I totally understand why they split them. I've been to corp-heavy region contests that were biased against the military bands (region 4). But I've also seen corps bands get the shaft at military heavy region contests (region 21). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THTFUIL Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Why should this post be moved? It is part of Friday night games. Besides, East Texas should be proud that many of our schools do not have the bizarre and dizzy half time performances. Most of the schools on the list play pretty good football. Just like football military style bands take precision. I am East Texas proud. We could do the same thing in football this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther89 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Spring Hill's Blue Brigade is the best military marching band in the state no matter what the judges think! 2nd place is great, but they'll always be number one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mavchamp said: https://c.streamhoster.com/embed/media/WasBNW/OkdiSASLs2B/r/kgas live stream for those that want to see 5A/6A today Longview and Lufkin advance to the finals. Crosby, Kingwood Park and Humble Atascocita also through. Lufkin performs at 8:45, Longview at 9:15. Youtube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22a8dU6UTOM Edited October 30 by LoboFan07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveragain Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 12 hours ago, CreateMyAccount said: China Springs, kinda So there are no military bands west of I45? I'm surprised that no other area of the state uses that style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveragain Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 I found this article from 2014 or so...I didn't know this info so I'm just passing it along for information purposes. By Jeremy Thomas For Reporting Texas Iron-pressed slacks and shiny white shoes march forward in sequence across straight or diagonal rows and columns. The marchers stand upright in regalia patterned after 19th-century military uniforms, with epaulettes on their shoulders and belts forming an “X” across their torsos. Every turn – quickly snapped. Every musical note – precise. But Texas marching bands are taking a sharp turn away from the military-style performances that were once a staple during Texas high school football halftime performances. Fewer than 80 of Texas’ nearly 1,400 high schools have military-style bands, a dramatic decline from the height of their popularity from the 1950s to the 1970s. Most schools march “corps-style.” In addition to marching in straight lines, they form different shapes on the field by changing step sizes to create curves. Despite their dwindling numbers, military marching bands continue to fight to preserve their traditions. They also want more recognition: a state championship of their own. Military and corps-style bands currently compete against one another at the University Interscholastic League marching band contest. “If you called ‘corps’ bands apples, you would call ‘military’ bands oranges, and you can’t compare the two,” said Nick Durham, band director for Carthage High School in East Texas and the president of the National Association of Military Marching Bands. Corps-style bands use props, costumes and a variety of music – from pop to rap to film scores. Military-style bands typically play traditional march music at a heart-pounding tempo of 120 to 140 beats per minute and maneuver on the field with sharp, stiff turns. Since the 1970s, the creation of lighter drums and competitions such as Drums Corps International helped popularize corps-style bands. Military-style bands have no similar organizations or competitions at the national or worldwide level. Enthusiasts of the military-style bands promise to keep pushing for a separate championship. A state UIL contest for military-style bands would help sustain them, according to association officials. “More people would realize military is a credible way of marching,” Durham said. “The letters U-I-L make a big difference to superintendents and the school board. We think that cementing our future in UIL would cement our future for good.” In December 2013, association members approached UIL executives in Texas about creating a separate contest for military bands. Two UIL music committees recently rejected the military marching band association’s proposal, according to UIL music director Bradley Kent. UIL officials cited the lack of state championships for other band styles and the vanishing footprint of military-style bands. “The proposal received due process,” Kent said. The UIL “heard all angles, heard the discussion and rejected the proposal.” The lack of participation from military bands in statewide marching competitions also played a major role in why the committees rejected the proposal, said Kathy Johnson, director of four-time state champion Argyle High School corps-style band. This year, 26 military-style bands competed in the military marching band association’s statewide competition, its only annual event. The Overton High School Marching Band was the last military band to win a state championship in any UIL conference. That was in 2001. The highest any military band has placed since then is third: Hemphill High in 2003 and New Boston High in 2007. Military marching bands still have deep roots in East Texas and the Golden Triangle area near Beaumont, where community support helps to uphold the tradition. Over the years, many Texas high school bands switched from military-style to corps-style. New high schools frequently have opted for corps-style bands. Last spring, Scott Tyner set out to restore the roar in Tenaha High School’s Roar’in Band in East Texas. The Tenaha schools superintendent hired a corps-style band director to reinvent the longstanding military-style band. Marching to a different step, the band received top marks at this year’s 2014 UIL Regional Marching Contest. It was Tenaha’s first “superior” rating since 2011. “To me, the style doesn’t matter,” Tyner said. “But if your goal is to be competitive at the state level, then you are selling your program short of opportunities by staying military.” Durham, in his sixth year as band director at Carthage High, said the military marching band association will revise and resubmit their proposal to the UIL next year. “We’re gonna try like hell to keep our style alive, and it’s not easy,” Durham said. “We’re gonna try like hell to make sure the UIL gets us a place on UIL state stage that will help keep us alive. … Not only would we sustain the current military bands that we have, but we also think that would grow. “That’s very important — not only keeping what we have, but growing,” he added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheSpear78 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Carlisle 5 straight band championships! #dynasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 31 Author Share Posted October 31 3A 5th: Sabine 4th: Diboll 3rd: New Diana 2nd: West Rusk State Champion: White Oak 5A/6A 5th: Kingwood 4th: Crosby 3rd: Atascosita 2nd: Longview State Champion: Lufkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer55 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 White oak won it tonight. Sabine got 5th new Diana third, and West Rusk got second. Longview came in second for the 5-6a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bclove05 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Not the result we wanted, but still proud of these kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer55 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 2 minutes ago, Bclove05 said: Not the result we wanted, but still proud of these kids. Man for years we would go and place among all the show bands. It’s been tough. We’d go with QC, Atlanta, yoe, and others. We won it in 2021 I think once they separated it. Mineola would win it every time as a show band. I swear they had to have several trailers to pull all their props. It was almost as if you had more props there you’d win it. We’d be the only military marching band there. I told my daughter all year to work hard and don’t screw up. It paid off. Mr Steele helped out this year again and Ramos was there when we won it in 21. They’ve practiced a lot and it’s paid off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenASmith Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 17 hours ago, Coach Rab said: If your kid’s band wins state, we would likely let it sit here for a few days then move it. We have always allowed it to a degree. I only suggested it be moved because adults aren't always adults and a times think it's ok to degrade kids while hiding behind a computer screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 We will move this topic to the band forum tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtlobos Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Haven't logged in a couple days and just made a topic over in the band forum before I saw this one. Oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poisoned10 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 I don't care what anyone says or thinks about bands . . . I'm proud of my son and Gilmer's band for placing 3rd this year and my daughter also placing 3rd a few years ago. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreateMyAccount Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 7 minutes ago, poisoned10 said: I don't care what anyone says or thinks about bands . . . I'm proud of my son and Gilmer's band for placing 3rd this year and my daughter also placing 3rd a few years ago. As you should be, just ignore the trolls, they're just upset to see anyone happy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted November 1 Author Share Posted November 1 3 hours ago, CreateMyAccount said: As you should be, just ignore the trolls, they're just upset to see anyone happy. Truth. Keyboard warriors. Miserable folk. Nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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