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I got this in an email, and was wondering if this is true. I did not watch the "today Show" to see it.




Did you see the Denzel Washington interview with

Katie Couric on NBC last Friday morning (13 August 2004)?


Not many people are talking about it. They are wishing it would go away and are trying to sweep it under the rug. But it's not going to happen! It basically went like this.


Meryl Streep and Denzel were on the today show "live" with Katie Couric to talk about the movie "Manchurian Candidate." At one point Katie asked Denzel, "have you seen Fahrenheit 9/11?" To which Denzel replied, "No, and I have no intentions on seeing it." Katie and Meryl were "so noticeably" taken aback! It was so cool!


Then, a discourse (or more preferably, a fight!) began between all three of them with Denzel being barraged with all kinds of anti-Bush, anti-republican comments, but "the man stood his ground" and soon enraged the women so much that they couldn't get a word in edgewise. Meryl Streep turned blood red and she sat with her legs crossed and her one leg shaking up and down, fuming! Then Katie uttered the words that put the final nail in her coffin, she said to Denzel "you see, that's the problem I have with "you people." She of course did not get to finish her sentence

because Denzel pounced on her verbally by responding "YOU PEOPLE! YOU PEOPLE! Just what do you mean you people! Do you mean "You People" as in me as a Christian, or do you mean "You People" as in me as a REPUBLICAN?

She then tap danced her way through the next minute of the show. But Denzel went out fighting and declaring that Fahrenheit 9/11 is nothing but propaganda and lies distorted to support a cynical democratic film director's views.


Now, there's a celebrity that deserves to wear the uniform in movies and I don't mind at all!

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Couric: "Some people have described your character, Meryl,

as Hillary Clinton's evil twin. And I'm just curious about whether you modeled your character in any way after people—"


Streep: "Her? No!"


Couric: "--people recognizable."


Streep: "No. I was thinking of, in particular, two people. But—"


Couric: "If you told me would you have to kill me?"


Streep: "Yeah. Then America would be mad at me. If I did that."


Liev Schreiber plays her son, Raymond Shaw, who's been brainwashed and programmed by a corporate conglomerate, that wants to take over the White House and the world.


Couric: "Manchurian Global obviously is this huge worldwide conglomerate, and they are the true evil empire in this film. Is this an indictment in any way of corporate America. What are your thoughts on that?"


Deeme: "Well, I-- not corporate America per se, but I know one of the things that excited me about the script when it came was in the first movie, the great world threat was characterized as communism. And in our picture, the story suggests that the multi-national corporations that profit on war may just be a huge ingredient of a great global threat today. Now with the war in Iraq going on, we're reading about the misadventures of some of these multi-national corporations. So I don't think we're making anything up in our movie."


Couric: "But I mean it is taken to the extreme, come on."


Washington: "Let's hope so."


Deeme: "With all this stuff going on, I kept hoping that we'd be one step ahead of the game when our picture came out, and I feel like we're just barely competing with what we're reading about in the papers nowadays. So, I don't think we're all that farfetched. I think we're a lot more fun than the real world."


But lately, it seems the worlds of Hollywood and politics have collided, due in large part to Michael Moore's controversial "Fahrenheit 9/11" and the lengthy list of luminaries who attended that recent fundraiser for Sen. John Kerry.


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Streep: "Oh, I was there."


Couric: "I know you were there. And in fact, I read your quote. You said -- you talked about President Bush and his invocation of religion and you said—"


Streep: "No, of Jesus."


Couric: "Of Jesus, sorry. ‘Through the shock and awe, I wondered which of the megaton bombs Jesus, our president's personal savior, would have personally dropped on the sleeping families in Baghdad.’"


Streep: "It was a question about when you put Jesus on the campaign bus to stump for you, you have to really listen to what he says, because he says, ‘If a man smite thee on the cheek, let you turn the other that he may smite it also.’ And he says, ‘He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.’ And he says, ‘Love thine enemy.’ Jesus could have raised an army against the people that persecuted him. He didn't. So that's what I was pointing out in my speech, and I couldn't really imagine Jesus, like I couldn't imagine how Jesus would vote. Jesus was the Prince of Peace. Would the Prince of Peace vote for a war President?"


Washington: "And it's open to interpretation. Jesus also went into the temple and kicked everybody out."


Streep: "That's kicking the money-changers out of the temple."


Washington: "Well, you're right. So—"


Streep: "The money-changers should get out of Congress, I agree. And I agree, but he didn't—"


Washington: "He didn't. He didn't only say turn the other cheek though. You’ve got to read the whole book. That's not what all he said."


Streep: "Oh, I do read the whole book."


Washington: "I do too. And that's not all he said."


Streep: "What does he say that said 'pick up a stick and kill somebody?'"


Washington: "Like I said, he did go into the temple and cleared the place well—"




Streep: "Of money, yeah."


Washington: "Okay, well, we're all—"


Streep: "Money's bad."


Washington: "We all make money. So does that make us bad? Maybe he's talking about us?"


Streep: "Well, yeah, maybe."


While the New Testament might have been an unexpected and volatile sidebar, politics proved equally incendiary for Denzel.


Couric: "Denzel, are you-- do you feel-- you know some people say Hollywood folks should stick to acting."


Washington: "I don't know what Hollywood folks are, first of all. Hollywood is a town that has some stars on the sidewalk. I don't know anybody from there. So, I don't-- that's like saying-- calling you a type of folks. I'm not a Hollywood folk. I don't know who they are."


Couric: "Okay, all right, well, let me rephrase the question. Are you one of those people that—"


Washington: "Ah, there you go. Am I one of those people? Hmmm, isn't that interesting?"


Couric: "Oh, stop, stop, stop."


Washington: "No, don't stop. I heard what you just said. "Am I one of those people?" No, I'm not."


Couric: "No, are you an actor who would rather not—"


Washington: "No, I'm not that either. I'm a human being. My job is acting."


Couric: "Okay, are you somebody who would rather not express his political views publicly? I mean how do you feel about that? Some people are more outspoken than others. And what I meant, are you one of the people who would rather keep it private? Don't make my questions loaded when they're not."


Washington: "Would I rather keep it private? No, I'm not one of those people. I think I speak what's on my mind."


Couric: "And how do you feel about the current political situation?"


Washington: "You know, I haven't seen ‘Fahrenheit 9/11,’ because I live in America. I grew up here. I'm an ex-slave. I'm a result of what this country can do. So it's nothing knew to me. I'm not surprised at all. It's just business as usual. What I want to talk about is, what are we doing right now, today, for these young kids that are coming home? Are we embracing them? I don't hear about them being lifted up. I mean, I'm not just talking about a parade but—"


Couric: "Are they getting the support they need."


Washington: "Are they getting the support and love they need from us? And maybe that story's being told, but I sure haven't seen it that much in the news. Yeah, they're pointing fingers about who was right and whose wrong and who started what and where the weapons of mass destruction. But these kids are coming home."


Streep: "Uh-huh."


Washington: "You know, I have a son, 19, 19-year-olds are coming home completely different."


While these three agree, "Manchurian Candidate" doesn't have an ideological agenda, they admit it's no coincidence it's set against the backdrop of an election. If nothing else, Jonathan Demme hopes it sparks what it did here -- a dialogue.


Demme: "It's fundamental to a democracy that you're not only permitted to speak out, you're supposed to have an opinion, you're supposed to speak out, you're supposed to engage in a discourse. And in this way, we arrive at ideas that can move us forward in a positive fashion. I wish everybody could get on TV and talk about how they feel. Maybe we'd learn something."


© 2004 MSNBC Interactive



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