Voted4Dubya Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Nixon was better than Reagan, IMO. Therefore making him the best president of the 20th century. He took the "end justifies the means" thing farther than anyone, and I don't think he did anything wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidAndroid Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 In that case, neither did Hitler. You absolutely must be joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Nixon gets a bad rap for being a regular D.C. lying politician. His administration opened ties back up with China, and in hindsight might have prevented a war. I don't see the point in ranking presidents, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voted4Dubya Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 No, I am serious. Nixon did what he had to do to keep the Democrats out of office and to keep this country safe. If it meant he had to break the law, so be it. And to compare Hitler to Nixon is absolutely ridiculous. The ends justify the means. Will you people get that through your head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidAndroid Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Originally posted by Voted4DubyaNo, I am serious. Nixon did what he had to do to keep the Democrats out of office and to keep this country safe. If it meant he had to break the law, so be it. And to compare Hitler to Nixon is absolutely ridiculous. The ends justify the means. Will you people get that through your head? First of all, I don't agree that the end justifies the means. Second, I don't agree that Nixon's means have been justified by anything. No good came out of the level of corruption that he brought to the White House. Besides, it's outright silly to say that Nixon did what he did for the good of the country. He did it because he was an over-paranoid nutcase who would do whatever it took to outsmart his enemies, whether they were real or imaginary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTownballer Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 To corrupt to handle the power he had, and one of the misuses cost him, which stained his legacy! The epitemy of a politician though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voted4Dubya Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 Corrupt? Why? Because he tried to defeat his enemies through unconventional means? Because he bombed the mess out of Cambodia? Those don't really sound corrupt to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Does Watergate ring a bell and were you on this earth when Nixon was president? He broke the law and tried to cover it up. Nixon had some good attributes also. One was getting China back in line. To me he's alot like slick Bill, he had some good qualities but he will only be remembered for his screw ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTownballer Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Define unconventional, if you meant to say breaking and entering, or just down right breaking law, I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voted4Dubya Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 Yes, Watergate does ring a bell. So does Iran-Contra. So does Monica Lewinsky. Nixon was still a great President, and defined the statement that "the ends justify the means," especially when dealing with national security. The nation was safer with a Republican president. But back to the question, how good of a president was he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTownballer Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 I don't recall him bombing in Cambodia. What he should of done was keep bombing the hell out north until, they said we give up, instead of we will come back to the bargaining table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Personally I thought he was okay but in no form or fashion was he better than Ronald Reagan. mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voted4Dubya Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 I'm not trying to say breaking the law is ok, because its not. But Watergate was overblown by the media and made out to be more than it really was. The Monica Lewinsky scandal was much more dangerous than Watergate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CNOrtega Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Originally posted by Voted4DubyaI'm not trying to say breaking the law is ok, because its not. But Watergate was overblown by the media and made out to be more than it really was. The Monica Lewinsky scandal was much more dangerous than Watergate. I tend not to post on the political threads anymore, but this one acutally made me laugh out loud. Monica Lewinsky was dangerous?! Clinton getting a __ now and then was dangerous to America?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTownballer Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Originally posted by Voted4DubyaI'm not trying to say breaking the law is ok, because its not. But Watergate was overblown by the media and made out to be more than it really was. The Monica Lewinsky scandal was much more dangerous than Watergate. Yea, I can set it now, put that cigar where the sun don't shine and I'll give you the nuclear launch codes! LOL:yay: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voted4Dubya Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 Originally posted by CNOrtega I tend not to post on the political threads anymore, but this one acutally made me laugh out loud. Monica Lewinsky was dangerous?! Clinton getting a BJ now and then was dangerous to America?! Depends on how you look at it. I don't see what Nixon did being near as dangerous to the moral fiber of America as it was to constantly cheat on your wife, lie to the nation about it, and then lie under oath about it. Also, I believe Clinton gave nuclear secrets to China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CNOrtega Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 ...he also punched an old lady in the face and took her pearl necklace. And he hates puppies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTownballer Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Are we digg'n up old bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clawsnstripes Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 i don't think nixon was a terrible president until he got caught. better than ronald? imo, no. better than clinton? by far. the only difference i guess is they impeached nixon and didn't get slick willie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptrick77 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Nixon was NOT impeached, Clinton was... BTW -- I know this is a paradoxical concept in a political forum, but could everyone try to KEEP IT CIVIL from here on out ?? Save the personal attacks for e-mail ... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 They didn't get the chance to impeach Nixon. He did the right thing and resigned before dragging the nation through that debacle..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptrick77 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Yes, there is HONOR in GETTING CAUGHT and cutting + running :whistle: C'mon -- he didn't resign to "save the nation", he resigned to save his legacy before it got worse !! :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Nixon was one of the best foreign policy presidents in my lifetime. I don't think he was as corrupt as Clinton, nor was his mistakes as harmful to America as the Clinton presidency. There were far worse things done by Clinton that he could have been impeached for than the Monica fiasco. Nixon's big sin was the cover up after Watergate. If he had confessed and said he had made a mistake, I believe his presidency would have survived. Overall, Nixon was a good president if you consider his accomplishments. Reagan was the greatest president in history. :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptrick77 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Is it possible to have a Nixon conversation without the inevitable "Clinton was worse" talking point ??? :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Originally posted by cheaptrick77Is it possible to have a Nixon conversation without the inevitable "Clinton was worse" talking point ??? :wacko: No! Because both were Riddled with scandals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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