BGR Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Al Davis does it again. I figured he would do this but still can't believe he passed over WR Crabtree for WR Heyward-bey. Denver going with a RB so early is a surprise too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badblackcat Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Oakland was a big surprise. I was pretty surprised Oher dropped so far. I'm also a bit surprised Mack and Wood went so early, and Unger got passed up. I can see quite a few reaches. I'm not completely surprised that Detroit was in a prime position to get better on both lines and did neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRusk85 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I am glad that Oakland didn't draft Crabtree, because that opened the door for my 49ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 The whole Oakland organization is retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRangers2023 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 once again Al Davis proved he is an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGR Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 A friend of mine is a die hard Raider fan... I think all of Texas heard his scream of "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!" when the selection was announced for Heyward-Bey over Crabtree. Then the reach for Mike Mitchell in the second just convinced him that Al can't kick the bucket soon enough. He said his only hope was for LA to finally get an expansion team. Al Davis has been crazy for a long time but each draft gets crazier than the last. Dallas drafting a kicker threw me for a loop, but he is a very strong and fast kicker so they may have some unigue ideas to get him active on game days. A multi-role kick off specialist/FB/LB/special teams coverage player would be great. Won't find too many kickers with his physical gifts and it will be interesting to see what they do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylews8973 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I was pretty shocked that Indy went Rb in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 The QB from Kansas State (Freeman) was drafted waaay too early. Sure, he's got talent and intangibles but he's really raw and unpolished. A project at best and, considering how high he was picked, looks to be the biggest bust of this Draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGR Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 I suspect you will see good things from Freeman. He was definitely the third best QB in this years draft. He should be brought along slowly and let him learn behind a veteran for a couple of years he should turn out to be really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRangers2023 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Dallas drafting a kicker threw me for a loop, but he is a very strong and fast kicker so they may have some unigue ideas to get him active on game days. A multi-role kick off specialist/FB/LB/special teams coverage player would be great. Won't find too many kickers with his physical gifts and it will be interesting to see what they do with him. may run the wildcat with him out of a field goal formation :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGR Posted April 27, 2009 Author Share Posted April 27, 2009 That is a very interesting prospect. How many kickers in the NFL played fullback in college? Not very many I would guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etos10 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I suspect you will see good things from Freeman. He was definitely the third best QB in this years draft. He should be brought along slowly and let him learn behind a veteran for a couple of years he should turn out to be really good. Third best? I know I am probably biased, but Graham Harrell did not even get drafted. He was by far a better qb than Freeman. You have to look at the team that he was the leader for -- KState was not exactly a force in any way. Good yes, better than some that did not get drafted? I don't think so. I cannot believe not one team was willing to take Harrell. What is up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I suspect you will see good things from Freeman. He was definitely the third best QB in this years draft. He should be brought along slowly and let him learn behind a veteran for a couple of years he should turn out to be really good. I agree with the first point but not the second. Freeman may indeed turn out to be a quality pro but I still think the Bucs drafted him too high. You're right, he will need to come a long slowly, especialy in his footwork and following progression. As far as being the third best QB, well, we'll just have to see about that one. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndnpowower Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I agree with the first point but not the second. Freeman may indeed turn out to be a quality pro but I still think the Bucs drafted him too high. You're right, he will need to come a long slowly, especialy in his footwork and following progression. As far as being the third best QB, well, we'll just have to see about that one. :) The new Tampa Bay HC was DC at Kansas St for a year while Freeman was there. He developed a close friendship with Freeman. Coach Morris was quoted as saying that had he had the first overall pick of the draft he would still have taken Freeman. That's why the Bucs gave up draft picks to move up in the draft and get him when he probably wouldn't have gone till the second round. The team has several defensive questions (DT, LB & CB) that were not answered because of that move and the trade of their 2nd round pick to the Browns for TE Kellen Winslow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie2008 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Third best? I know I am probably biased, but Graham Harrell did not even get drafted. He was by far a better qb than Freeman. You have to look at the team that he was the leader for -- KState was not exactly a force in any way. Good yes, better than some that did not get drafted? I don't think so. The NFL is an entirely different animal than the NCAA. The scouts and GMs get paid a lot of money to do what they do and if Harrell was passed over 256 times they genuinely believe there's something seriously wrong with his game, otherwise someone would have taken him. Also remember that Texas Tech runs an offense that inflates numbers and does not use NFL-style reads and route combinations. Harrell played behind the biggest offensive line in the country and was able to sit in the pocket the vast majority of the time out of the shotgun and not face pressure. The one team that was able to get consistent pressure on him made him look silly. Freeman played on a team with FAR less talent yet was able to do things that most other QBs would not be able to do. Freeman is as physically gifted as they come and can be seen on film doing things that NFL QBs need to be able to do to be successful like stepping up in the pocket, throwing on the run, and hitting tight windows. Film on Harrell making NFL-style reads and throws is few and far between. Freeman is more of a sure bet than Harrell in terms of success at this point. The Bucs took Freeman early because they liked him, had a need at QB, and knew he wasn't going to be around in the second round. The Broncos were going to draft him with the next pick if the Bucs had not traded up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankThatCrabtree Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 The NFL is an entirely different animal than the NCAA. The scouts and GMs get paid a lot of money to do what they do and if Harrell was passed over 256 times they genuinely believe there's something seriously wrong with his game, otherwise someone would have taken him. Also remember that Texas Tech runs an offense that inflates numbers and does not use NFL-style reads and route combinations. Harrell played behind the biggest offensive line in the country and was able to sit in the pocket the vast majority of the time out of the shotgun and not face pressure. The one team that was able to get consistent pressure on him made him look silly. Freeman played on a team with FAR less talent yet was able to do things that most other QBs would not be able to do. Freeman is as physically gifted as they come and can be seen on film doing things that NFL QBs need to be able to do to be successful like stepping up in the pocket, throwing on the run, and hitting tight windows. Film on Harrell making NFL-style reads and throws is few and far between. Freeman is more of a sure bet than Harrell in terms of success at this point. The Bucs took Freeman early because they liked him, had a need at QB, and knew he wasn't going to be around in the second round. The Broncos were going to draft him with the next pick if the Bucs had not traded up. watch the KSU v. OU game if you wanna know why Freeman is a first rounder pay close attention to this throw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Freeman has NFL caliber skills ... Harrell and Daniel don't. It's as simple as that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGR Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Harrell's down fall was the spread offense and the history of Texas Tech QBs coming from that system. He is arguably the most talented of all the QBs from Leach's system but he struggled in the senior bowl therefore no team drafted him. College Qbs, I never heard of, were picked over Harrel. I think Harrel can be an NFL QB but will need to be coached up a lot. Who would be the third best QB in this year's draft if not Freeman, in your opinion Matthias? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I'd say Pat White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodathoughtit Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I say Freeman was a stretch at that point in the draft. He reminds me of another great K-state qb Michael Bishop. Great high school & college qb. Cannon for an arm and was I believe was on the Patriots roster for a brief time. QB in the indoor football league in Corpus now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGR Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 I'd say Pat White. I would rank White as 4th and I would have loved to see Dallas select him in the second round if he had been there with their pick. Freeman is a more proto-typical QB, White is more like the Michael Vick type but is probably a more accurate passer but not as gifted as Vick with his legs. I would say Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman and White were selected higher than they should have been but with the QB class so shallow it was a necessity for teams to reach or lose out. Bradford and Tebow would have pushed Freeman and White farther down if they had entered the draft. May have even pushed Sanchez and Stafford down some. Only time will tell which guy is actually the best of the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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