qwerty Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 In your opinion do you belive Michael Irvin will get voted in, In the Hall Of Fame???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoelessjoelives Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Herban was a great talent but had the problem that surfaces more and more in sports. His "sweet tooth" will cost him in the first ballot voting I would say. That nose candy that Herban was fond of will not go unnoticed by the Hall on his first try. :mad::fish: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobama Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 This is his third try... pretty weak competition this year, if he doesn't make it now, he probably won't ever get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal13 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Don't know about Michael Irving, but Michael Irvin will most surely get into the HOF sooner or later. His off the field problems will probably make it a little later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGR Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 The off the field problems of Michael Irvin are just an excuse for the anti-Cowboy bias that permeates the HOF voters. The HOF voters elected Lawrence Taylor to the Hall of Fame, in his first year of eligibility. L.T. had major off the field problems so I don't see why Irvin's off the field problems should keep him out, on the third try, if similar problems did not deny Taylor in his first try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Originally posted by shoelessjoelivesHerban was a great talent but had the problem that surfaces more and more in sports. His "sweet tooth" will cost him in the first ballot voting I would say. That nose candy that Herban was fond of will not go unnoticed by the Hall on his first try. :mad::fish: Maybe we should take it a little further. Anybody already in ANY Hall of Fame(especially Baseball) with an arrest record should be taken out of the HOF. Maybe that will please the Holier than thou Shoeless Joe.:w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGR Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 :rofl::rofl::rofl: strawberry. Also, this is Irvin's third time to be in the running for the HOF election shoeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoelessjoelives Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Never paid any attention to the number of times Herb-an has been on the ballot. I don't care about his arrest record either, he is just like the dozen or so other cowboy felons in their history. Berry, don't get defensive over a little cowboy knockin' when the stories are all true.:whome: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Originally posted by shoelessjoelivesNever paid any attention to the number of times Herb-an has been on the ballot. I don't care about his arrest record either, he is just like the dozen or so other cowboy felons in their history. What Baseball team was Shoeless Joe a member of? There all fellons now right? Are there any felons in the hall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoelessjoelives Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Totally different deal. You know as well as anyone that if what happened in 1919 was brought forward to the present it never would have taken place because of the Players Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Originally posted by shoelessjoelivesTotally different deal. You know as well as anyone that if what happened in 1919 was brought forward to the present it never would have taken place because of the Players Union. Non the less, it is not called the Football or Baseball hall of fame for Outstanding Moral Athletes. What they do off the field is not relevant. If it is, then you must remove all prior inductees that had problems as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoelessjoelives Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Couldn't do that because the membership would be too small to make it worth building a Hall. Maybe only the need for a small Mt. Rushmore type setup would suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Originally posted by shoelessjoelivesCouldn't do that because the membership would be too small to make it worth building a Hall. Maybe only the need for a small Mt. Rushmore type setup would suffice. HAhaha yeah! Good point.:whome: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medman7 Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 You do have to admit that honoring people who perform these extra activities simply tell people that is ok to be a drug addict as long as your a rich ball player. The key word you mentioned is MORAL. That implies how you act in everything you do, not how you act sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Originally posted by Medman7 You do have to admit that honoring people who perform these extra activities simply tell people that is ok to be a drug addict as long as your a rich ball player. The key word you mentioned is MORAL. That implies how you act in everything you do, not how you act sometimes. And I have no problem with what you said but you cant start judging athletes by their morals now and not include the immoral that are already in the hall. What kind of message does that send? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptrick77 Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 My answer is "not until these guys get in first" : Cliff Branch Mike Curtis Horace Gillom L.C. Greenwood Ray Guy Chris Hanburger Cliff Harris Bob Hayes Gene Hickerson Chuck Howley Harold Jackson Rich Jackson Ed "Too Tall" Jones Jerry Kramer Jim Marshall Art Monk Tommy Nobis Drew Pearson Charley Sanders Ken Stabler Mick Tinglehoff Originally posted by BoBellCrew pretty weak competition this year meh -- give me a break :mad: Here is this year's "weak" list of 17 finalists . . . many of whom did not enjoy the luxary of playing in the SportsCenter era: Bruce Matthews Gary Zimmerman Bob Kuechenberg Russ Grimm Gene Hickerson Fred Dean Richard Dent Andre Tippett Derrick Thomas Ray Guy Michael Irvin Art Monk Roger Wehrli Charlie Sanders Thurman Thomas Andre Reed Paul Tagliabue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 I can think of a dozen or so Cowboys and countless other NFL greats that are just as deserving or more so than Michael Irvin. The thing that I remember most about Irvin was more times than not I kept asking myself, "Geez, how did he get away with that? That was offensive interference!" He certainly holds the NFL record for getting away with offensive pass interference!!! I think he wore the officials down he did it so often, they just couldn't throw their flag EVERY time the ball was thrown in his direction! :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medman7 Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Very Very true. It should have started in the beginning. You cannot start over now! They should remove the phrase of "OUTSTANDING MORAL ATHLETES" from the criteria and just leave it at "Outstanding Athletic Accomplishments"!!!! To go off on another tangent; If they are going to let illegal drug users in, then there is no reason to not let Pete Rose in. I do not see gambling being any worse than the amount of drugs that numbers of professional athletes do on any given day. As the saying goes, "A sin is a sin, no matter how big or small they are all judged the same"! :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC_fan Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Congrats to Michael on getting into the HOF. The Chicago Bulls had their "Triangle Offense". The Cowboys has their "Triplets". And Michael was an intregal part of the "Triplets". I think that he earned his way into the HOF with his play on the playing field, and work habits on the practice field and in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoelessjoelives Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Just don't follow him home or anytime he isn't on cowboys or ESPN "time". You might get into the dark side of the world and not want to be there.......but it could be too late then. Herb-an will have to watch those temptations and demons that his body apparently either craves or wants because it only takes one time of being in the wrong place at the wrong time..........and at that point it could net ol' Herban a pine box. Again, don't hang around with him after school, little Johnnie. AND why hasn't the guy who changed the pro game forever with his play not been awarded for his impact on the game? Ray Guy should have already been in Canton and delivered that speech to the throngs. Wake up voters and don't forget this player who brought about such dramatic changes to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Him and Mantle are great role models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoelessjoelives Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Him who ? Ray Guy ? Guy was a good person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Originally posted by shoelessjoelivesHim who ? Ray Guy ? Guy was a good person. Herban!:whome: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest texpal22 Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 congrats to Michael Irvin....Emmitt should be next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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