RETIREDFAN1 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 11 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said: They typically don't want to accept facts on here. Liberals facts are nothing but propaganda made up for their low intelligence supporters....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 26 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Liberals facts are nothing but propaganda made up for their low intelligence supporters....... Catturd tell you that or Insurrection Barbie??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Catturd tell you that or Insurrection Barbie??? And exactly how reliable are your sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 7 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: And exactly how reliable are your sources? I can promise you that they aren't Youtube, X, or anonymous if they aren't affiliated with an actual news organization or some form of journalism, or an actual government agency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: I can promise you that they aren't Youtube, X, or anonymous if they aren't affiliated with an actual news organization or some form of journalism, or an actual government agency. That doesn't answer the question. Nice dodge, though. I really hope you don't let your students answer questions in that fashion. Edited March 20 by Monte1076 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, BarryLaverty said: Are you denying the production numbers? Your blind hostility makes you goofy. Production numbers don't tell the full story ..... Crude oil prices have almost doubled since Plugs took office and prices at the pump have soared as well ... Plugs has been groveling at the feet of Saudi Arabia and the oil cartel begging them to increase production .... If Plugs is forcing electric vehicles on everybody, why is he trying desperately to increase production .... it doesn't make sense unless he knows his electric vehicle debacle is doomed to failure .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, PepeSilvia said: https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus2&f=m That's an interesting take to have on things especially since we have increased our oil production to the highest levels that they've ever been under Biden. See my comments on Meathead's last reply ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 29 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Catturd tell you that or Insurrection Barbie??? Unlike you establishment puppets, I can formulate an original thought without being told........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: Production numbers don't tell the full story 38 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: Crude oil prices have almost doubled since Plugs took office and prices at the pump have soared as well You do understand that production was shut down, due to low demand during the throes of COVID, with oil prices actually going under during Trump's time, and that the economy had slowed to a crawl during 2020. Once we reopened our economy, demand steadily climbed, and with supply not completely in line, there was a natural increase. Do you really need a lecture on supply and demand? 45 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: Plugs has been groveling at the feet of Saudi Arabia Groveling is letting Saudi Arabia get away with the murder of a journalist, like the Trump administration did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 29 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: You do understand that production was shut down, due to low demand during the throes of COVID, with oil prices actually going under during Trump's time, and that the economy had slowed to a crawl during 2020. Once we reopened our economy, demand steadily climbed, and with supply not completely in line, there was a natural increase. Do you really need a lecture on supply and demand? Groveling is letting Saudi Arabia get away with the murder of a journalist, like the Trump administration did. Come on Meathead, you aren't actually trying to defend Plug's attack on the oil and gas industry are you, He want's to shut down gasoline car production and dry up oil and gas ..... yet you are trying to claim he's pro fossil fuels? ..... that dog won't hunt, Meathead ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, BarryLaverty said: I can promise you that they aren't Youtube, X, or anonymous if they aren't affiliated with an actual news organization or some form of journalism, or an actual government agency. Yea, you are more of a Morning Joke, The View, and Rachael Madcow kind of guy, eh Meathead ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 8 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: Yea, you are more of a Morning Joke, The View, and Rachael Madcow kind of guy, eh Meathead ..... Don't.Watch.News.On.TV. (for the millionth time.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Let's look at numbers.....Boring, I know. Average Price of Crude Oil in the following years. 2012--111.63 a barrel 2013--108.56 a barrel 2014--98.97 a barrel 2015--52.32 a barrel 2016--43.67 a barrel 2017--54.25 a barrel 2018--71.34 a barrel 2019--64.30 a barrel 2020--41.96 a barrel 2021--70.86 a barrel 2022--100.93 a barrel 2023--82.49 a barrel 2024--81.80 a barrel Just looking at the following article and knowing that this administration dropped 180 million barrels from the strategic oil reserve in March of 2022. Of Oil that was already in the surplus, even if we go back 10 years of supplying to Strategic Reserves......the average cost of a barrel of oil would have been $71.79 a barrel Multiplied by 180 million barrels, cost the taxpayers $12,922,200,000. Today, the administration is saying they are replacing that oil reserve of 180 million barrels at today's prices......so at today's AVERAGE price of a barrel, that is $81.80 a barrel, or basically $10 more a barrel. Bringing the cost to taxpayers to $14,724,000,000. or a difference of $1,801,800,000. Now I understand the need for strategic reserves.....and to hope to purchase them at a cheap price, while this nation is already $33 trillion in debt, we are wasting close to $2 trillion more to replenish our reserves, when we could have continued to drill, opened up new lands to drilling, and eased policies to never have sold our reserves and saved the government $2 trillion dollars. On top of the inflation that it has caused throughout the country. Greed or Policies.....they help each other out. https://www.statista.com/statistics/262860/uk-brent-crude-oil-price-changes-since-1976/ https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/us-to-return-oil-reserves-to-highs-of-two-years-ago-by-year-end/ar-BB1kbTqn?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=cdc0f48dc6074879a16542f3915ae06d&ei=102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: Production numbers don't tell the full story ..... Crude oil prices have almost doubled since Plugs took office and prices at the pump have soared as well ... Plugs has been groveling at the feet of Saudi Arabia and the oil cartel begging them to increase production .... If Plugs is forcing electric vehicles on everybody, why is he trying desperately to increase production .... it doesn't make sense unless he knows his electric vehicle debacle is doomed to failure .... So by your logic I’d assume that you would agree that the high prices are Trump’s fault since he’s the one that got Saudi Arabia to decrease production. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: See my comments on Meathead's last reply ..... Your comment is cult logic. You can’t say you debunked something without any evidence whatsoever. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: Don't.Watch.News.On.TV. (for the millionth time.) Just read the librard dim talking points? NY Slimes, Washington Compost? .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, PepeSilvia said: So by your logic I’d assume that you would agree that the high prices are Trump’s fault since he’s the one that got Saudi Arabia to decrease production. We didn't have high prices under President Trump, Cletus ..... we have them now because of Plugs ..... try to keep up ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 30 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: Just read the librard dim talking points? NY Slimes, Washington Compost? .... He's concerned about misinformation, but gets it every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 7 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: Are you denying the production numbers? Your blind hostility makes you goofy. The production numbers are there, but most of it is and was being sold off to foreign countries including his beloved China. That doesn't help Americans at home. He doesn't want Americans to have cheaper gas prices as proved by Retiredfan1's meme. He wants Americans to go green. That's what you're forgetting with your blind devotion to Biden and his ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, PepeSilvia said: So by your logic I’d assume that you would agree that the high prices are Trump’s fault since he’s the one that got Saudi Arabia to decrease production. We didn't need Saudi oil because we were able to purchase our own oil instead of selling it to foreign countries. We were energy independent under the FANTASTIC leadership of President Trump. Now look where Americans are under the leadership of Biden. This is what inflation has led to : Credit scores fall for the first time in a decade as Americans struggle to pay their bills (nypost.com) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PepeSilvia Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 21 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: We didn't have high prices under President Trump, Cletus ..... we have them now because of Plugs ..... try to keep up ..... Yet again, Trump got the Saudi's to decrease production so prices would rise. Low gas prices are not good for the oil industry that ya'll claim to love so much. Try to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 20 hours ago, DaveTV1 said: The production numbers are there, but most of it is and was being sold off to foreign countries including his beloved China. That doesn't help Americans at home. He doesn't want Americans to have cheaper gas prices as proved by Retiredfan1's meme. He wants Americans to go green. That's what you're forgetting with your blind devotion to Biden and his ilk. I'm gonna need some proof of the ignorance you are spouting Mr Robinson because I'm not gonna believe it just because you say it is so. Here's an interesting read from a source that is not exactly left leaning. https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2023/05/02/us-energy-independence-soars-to-highest-levels-in-over-70-years/?sh=6b420d9f977f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 15 hours ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Remember what? That we were in a pandemic and nobody was driving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Pepe…..oil savy investor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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