BarryLaverty Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, CarthDawg77 said: Yeah, just put on the Deficit... Republicans still care about the deficit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Republicans still care about the deficit? Have Democrats ever cared about it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 So...that's a NO? You might want to look at Obama and Clinton's deficits. Don't get tripped up on debt. It's two different things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, BarryLaverty said: Republicans still care about the deficit? No they don’t, but conservatives do. Normal people do. No one in congress does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 This is an attempt to buy votes with taxpayer money. Â While it will appeal to the idiots that chose a liberal arts degree and can't find a job that pays over $40,000 a year maybe they could afford to pay off their student loans. Â The only people that will be for this are students with the loans, and the dingbat Communist/Socialists. Â The rest of America won't vote for her over it. Â It won't be just because she's a woman either. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 41 minutes ago, DaveTV1 said: This is an attempt to buy votes with taxpayer money.  While it will appeal to the idiots that chose a liberal arts degree and can't find a job that pays over $40,000 a year maybe they could afford to pay off their student loans.  The only people that will be for this are students with the loans, and the dingbat Communist/Socialists.  The rest of America won't vote for her over it.  It won't be just because she's a woman either.  Well I can tell you that I won't vote for her because she is a woman, I have never and will never vote for a woman to be President. They are just too emotional to be President. And that include Nikki Haley, My daughters, or my mother. But that is just who I am when it comes to the Presidency. Outside of that one true fault of mine, I believe that woman can do whatever else they want to do, including choosing what they do with their bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 5 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: So...that's a NO? You might want to look at Obama and Clinton's deficits. Don't get tripped up on debt. It's two different things. Have I ever said on here that I'm Republican? Let me clarify: I think of myself politically as an Independent Conservative. I understand the difference between the debt and the deficit. I don't need a lecture from you on it, Barry. Though I may not be as "educated" as you (I don't possess a college degree), I'm probably smarter and more knowledgeable than you give me credit for. But maybe some of your Democratic friends need a lesson on the Debt (not the deficit), so I'll leave this here:  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: So...that's a NO? You might want to look at Obama and Clinton's deficits. Don't get tripped up on debt. It's two different things. https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151 It's funny how a liberal that loves big government says "don't get tripped up on debt. It's two different things". So I guess that every year there is a deficit, it doesn't add to the debt? So if there is a surplus, like when billy got there in the late 1990s, that doesn't decrease the debt? I am pretty sure the deficit and the debt go hand in hand, but I am sure Barry, you and the other liberals can't see that. Quick Math lesson: If you spend more than you make, you have a deficit. If you don't pay that money back at the end of the year--you have debt, because of the deficit. So if you make 10,000 and spend 12,000 you have a deficit, if you don't repay that 2000 dollar deficit, it means you have debt, if that debt is on a credit card and you pay interest on the debt--that means you are increasing you debt another way, besides overspending.  Just imagine if the US government had budget surpluses every year, they could pay down the debt. But NO ONE in either party wants that, because they want to keep spending OUR money. And then Barry, you wonder why people can't stand the thought of raising taxes for your social programs, because it will add to the deficit, which in turn will add to the debt. "two different things", liberals mindset, SSDD, SMFH!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, DannyZuco said: https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151 It's funny how a liberal that loves big government says "don't get tripped up on debt. It's two different things". So I guess that every year there is a deficit, it doesn't add to the debt? So if there is a surplus, like when billy got there in the late 1990s, that doesn't decrease the debt? I am pretty sure the deficit and the debt go hand in hand, but I am sure Barry, you and the other liberals can't see that. Quick Math lesson: If you spend more than you make, you have a deficit. If you don't pay that money back at the end of the year--you have debt, because of the deficit. So if you make 10,000 and spend 12,000 you have a deficit, if you don't repay that 2000 dollar deficit, it means you have debt, if that debt is on a credit card and you pay interest on the debt--that means you are increasing you debt another way, besides overspending.  Just imagine if the US government had budget surpluses every year, they could pay down the debt. But NO ONE in either party wants that, because they want to keep spending OUR money. And then Barry, you wonder why people can't stand the thought of raising taxes for your social programs, because it will add to the deficit, which in turn will add to the debt. "two different things", liberals mindset, SSDD, SMFH!!!!! Potato/Potatoe; Same Same . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88YoePride Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Oh, she's on a roll. But make no mistake - It's not just Warren. They all are dead set on this platform. https://conventionofstates.com/sen-elizabeth-warren-just-proposed-the-largest-seizure-of-private-assets-in-human-history-1?fbclid=IwAR2_6CbWAJJTBWUQ-w1lo9J6zPyYOBZM1P65MQMcWgmdNAvTaGnPiP2JCUY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ1000 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 13 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: So...that's a NO? You might want to look at Obama and Clinton's deficits. Don't get tripped up on debt. It's two different things. Didn't it skyrocket under Barry? What is your point? That's right you don't have one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DannyZuco Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, BarryLaverty said: Which means that the government is spending more than they are taking in. But here is the funny thing, you want to blame it on President Trump only. Well if you have read the constitution, it tells you that congress is in charge of appropriations. The President can send over a budget, but congress does NOT have to follow it, they just have to have a 2/3 majority on their budget to over ride a veto. But since neither party gives a  about cutting spending, we will continue to have deficits, which will continue to lead to more debt overall. But hey, you keeping thinking they are 2 different things. SMFH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 No comment on how while Obama certainly had some very large deficits, as we came out of the recession, under him it leveled very much downward as a trend and how under Trump it has shot upward? No analysis of that, insight? The Republicans don't care anymore, because it's not a political football, and they are following along in Trump's wake, could be said, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, BarryLaverty said: No comment on how while Obama certainly had some very large deficits, as we came out of the recession, under him it leveled very much downward as a trend and how under Trump it has shot upward? No analysis of that, insight? The Republicans don't care anymore, because it's not a political football, and they are following along in Trump's wake, could be said, right? Like someone said earlier....neither republicans or dimtards care about deficits....the ONLY ones who care about deficits are conservatives..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, WestHardinfan1 said: Like someone said earlier....neither republicans or dimtards care about deficits....the ONLY ones who care about deficits are conservatives..... True...but why the continued unwavering support of Trump if this is an important issue? Did it become less so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Yes and Obama added 8-10 trillion in debt while having these deficits. I argued then that the political parties weren't doing enough, I have said the same thing since the 1980s, they don't want to end spending, they want to keep taking and spending, it doesn't matter which political party. Bill Clinton is only one to have surpluses, why, because he cut 100K government jobs from the federal government--which is by far the biggest killer to any budget any where. I don't care who is in office, the spending comes from Congress, then Presidents sign off on it, meaning we haven't had a president with nads to fight them with smaller budgets in decades. But feel free to blame everything on President Trump, because that is what good liberals do, blame everyone but themselves for the lack of fiscal responsibility. But thank the history of Presidents for adding debt to the American taxpayers, and your blessed obama for adding more debt to this country in 8 years than every president before him did since 1789. That is a great record to have, but I am sure it'll be broken, and maybe by President Trump, which means no one gives a darn about the taxpayer, except to take their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just now, BarryLaverty said: True...but why the continued unwavering support of Trump if this is an important issue? Did it become less so? Because we don't vote on a single issue.....he is pro-life....he is pro second amendment....he is America first......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: True...but why the continued unwavering support of Trump if this is an important issue? Did it become less so? While I support some of this President's actions, I do NOT support all of them, I am still against him NOT reducing deficits, especially when more tax dollars are going into the federal government because of the good economy, more workers in the work place, and tax cuts, or him being pro life, that doesn't matter to me, as much as protecting our nation, whether from foreign invasions or terrible trade deals that do NOT benefit the USA. And I won't vote for him again in this election, I will vote for the one person that I trust in the White House, and we all know who that is.........LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Here's video of the encounter: Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Notice she has no rational answer to his questions .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, KirtFalcon said: Notice she has no rational answer to his questions .... She & AOC are the darlings of the Socialist Party... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, KirtFalcon said: Notice she has no rational answer to his questions .... If Republicans are smart (and Republican PACs are smart) they'll use that clip in ads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 When you can out "nutty" Crazy Bernie, you are truly ... nuttier than a fruitcake ... .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 The big problem I have with this is that I never finished college. I went to 1 semester years ago, then a "vo-tech" type of school to get basic programming skills. I've scratched and clawed to get where I am. I've taken a couple of college courses off and on, but even if I wanted to finish, it would still be years away. So I learn within my field. And I make pretty good money. I have a son who is just a few years from college. I wouldn't qualify for "free" college for him, because I "make too much". But I would probably be paying for other people's kid's college -- and my own son's college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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