RETIREDFAN1 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, ctown81 said: It's NOT plagiarism if I put it in quotes. I'm not acting as if it's my own. "One of the most misleading critiques of the movement is instigating defund means abolish. Opposers claim the movement undermines public safety through its efforts to end policing. The truth: the movement seeks to demilitarize police departments and reallocate funding to trained mental health workers and social workers to reduce unnecessary violent encounters between police and citizens. At least 13 cities in the United States have currently engaged in policy programs to defund the police." https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-we-rise/2021/05/19/7-myths-about-defunding-the-police-debunked/ Only a libnut would think that would curb crime......I'd RATHER have the police armed and bringing down criminals....guess what....ya'll hero george floyd will never commit another crime........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, ctown81 said: Great example of this is the mass shootings you brought up. How does pumping more money into the police prevent mass shootings? For the same reason less money for police leads to more crime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, ctown81 said: How does pumping more money into the police prevent mass shootings? it'll do more than funding social workers to be cops........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Straw said: For the same reason less money for police leads to more crime These idiots want to send social workers to crime scenes.......all thats gonna do is add more victims......libnut logic........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Straw said: For the same reason less money for police leads to more crime It actually doesn't, hence why those other places listed have little crime. Actually the heaviest policed areas tend to have more crime. Preventative measures work best IMO and a better prison program for those who will be released oneday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, ctown81 said: It actually doesn't, hence why those other places listed have little crime. Actually the heaviest policed areas tend to have more crime. Preventative measures work best IMO and a better prison program for those who will be released oneday. Data??? Evidence???? or are you just repeating the lies your libnut masters fed to you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 19 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Data??? Evidence???? or are you just repeating the lies your libnut masters fed to you??? https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-peaceful-countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, ctown81 said: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-peaceful-countries From that article: "Qualities that make it the most peaceful nation on Earth include low crime rates, robust education and welfare systems, fair pay for workers, and “non-existent” tension among the economic classes." So basically, to be considered a "peaceful nation" by the group you referenced, you have to be a socialist/ marxist paradise........got ya, libnut...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: The do not enjoy the freedoms we enjoy....the DO live in police states........If you like Europe so much, why not just move there....you'd be back within a month.....WE AIN'T GONNA CHANGE........ Im pretty sure it would come as a surprise to the citizens of those countries that they live in a police state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, EnjoyLife said: Im pretty sure it would come as a surprise to the citizens of those countries that they live in a police state. That's because they don't KNOW any different......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ctown81 said: It actually doesn't, hence why those other places listed have little crime. Actually the heaviest policed areas tend to have more crime. Preventative measures work best IMO and a better prison program for those who will be released oneday. Forget those other places. Merely look at the increase in crime in the liberal cities who have defunded the Police. Blacks being murdered increased almost 30% in 2020, right about the time this insanity started. So are black Americans better off with more Police, or better off with less? Facts would tend to indicate the former, but how the average black American sees it could be different. Perhaps they’re willing to sacrifice black lives for less Police? Can’t say, but as simply an American, I’ll take the more Police. All those deaths weren’t just gang-bangers. Many were innocents - children, elderly. Evidently you’re okay with the slaughter going on, or for some reason you think more Police won’t help, which is strange since there appears to be a correlation between the number of Police and the number of murders. Btw, or biggest problem now is the releasing of criminals with little or no bail. Not even a slap on the wrist. You lock up criminals you have less crime. Imo, we don’t have a large increase in criminals, we simply have criminals committing more crimes since they’re not being incarcerated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 14 hours ago, ctown81 said: I doubt it. They would get banned if they did lol. As for American culture, all we have is baseball and apple pie. BBQ - overeating - griping about everything and being country extra - undefeated in world wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Also football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 2 hours ago, ctown81 said: It actually doesn't, hence why those other places listed have little crime. Actually the heaviest policed areas tend to have more crime. Preventative measures work best IMO and a better prison program for those who will be released oneday. Saudi’s Arabia has little shoplifting but they cut your hand off if you are caught in Asia they came you. just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 21 hours ago, ctown81 said: I agree. One thing I couldn't believe till i looked it up myself is how unhealthy our food is compared to European countries. I'm referring to the food we buy in stores. There's additives in our food that's banned in other countries. https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/why-are-some-food-additives-that-are-banned-in-europe-still-used-in-the-us/ I generally disagree, overall I'd say our food is healthier than most countries unless all you eat is fast food and pre prepared foods .... I have been to several countries where the food is downright nasty compared to ours .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 3 hours ago, ctown81 said: It actually doesn't, hence why those other places listed have little crime. Actually the heaviest policed areas tend to have more crime. Preventative measures work best IMO and a better prison program for those who will be released oneday. Chicago? NY? Less crime? Seattle? LA? Less crime? Policing the criminals doesn't work if the libtard judical system doesn't hold the criminals accountable .... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 47 minutes ago, osup116 said: Saudi’s Arabia has little shoplifting but they cut your hand off if you are caught in Asia they came you. just saying Saudi Arabia has their regular police as well as their religious police ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Hagar said: rely look at the increase in crime in the liberal cities who have defunded the Police. Blacks being murdered increased almost 30% in 2020, right about the time this insanity started. The 30% increase i read was for everyone not just blacks. What states defunded and had a rise in crime? What part of the police department was defunded. The donut budget or did they lay officers off? Not trying to be funny but it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 10 hours ago, EnjoyLife said: Couldn't you make the case that there is freedom in knowing you can go to a store or a restaurant or a theater without wondering if some yahoo is going to start spraying bullets? That wouldn't be any fun, come one man--we always need to be on guard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 9 hours ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: Anyone quoting something and not citing the source will have that post removed.....plagiarism is a violation....... Well that's no fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ctown81 said: The 30% increase i read was for everyone not just blacks. What states defunded and had a rise in crime? What part of the police department was defunded. The donut budget or did they lay officers off? Not trying to be funny but it matters. https://www.publishedreporter.com/2022/04/19/defund-the-police-movement-results-in-huge-increase-in-black-american-deaths-new-report-says/ https://www.secureamericanow.org/cities_defunding_police Edited April 19, 2022 by KirtFalcon yo mama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 10 hours ago, EnjoyLife said: Couldn't you make the case that there is freedom in knowing you can go to a store or a restaurant or a theater without wondering if some yahoo is going to start spraying bullets? Then we'd have to worry about being stabbed to death. Other forms of this type of illogical behavior happen all over the world, but people want to blame guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 10 hours ago, EnjoyLife said: Im pretty sure people in France and Germany and Denmark and Finland and Italy and Japan and Belgium and Australia and Switzerland and Austria and Great Britain do not live in total police states...yet they do not have the daily carnage that we have. Why is that? Oh really they don't ? You might want to look up the mass stabbings and killings in those countries. You might be amazed. It might not be guns, but other weapons are used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, DaveTV1 said: Then we'd have to worry about being stabbed to death. Other forms of this type of illogical behavior happen all over the world, but people want to blame guns. Where did I blame guns? Heck, Im a gun owner and taught our girls how to safely handle a gun as soon as they were old enough. Well, as soon as their mother said I could lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, EnjoyLife said: Where did I blame guns? Heck, Im a gun owner and taught our girls how to safely handle a gun as soon as they were old enough. Well, as soon as their mother said I could lol. Maybe if all parents would teach their children we wouldn't have mass shootings. We didn't have them in the past, and almost everyone I knew owned a gun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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