trueblue82 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lobo97 said: The debate is not FSU and Texas. FSU is in. The debate is between Texas and Alabama. If head to head doesn’t matter, why play the game. You canNOT put Bama in over Texas. I don’t get saying “FSU is in.” They won a garbage conference. If being unbeaten with a conference championship is all it takes to get in the playoff, why are conferences trying to get stronger instead of weaker? If the playoff is really about having a true national champion that is the best team in the country, then you should want the four best teams in it. Anyone that thinks 2 of the top 4 didn’t play in Atlanta today is smoking crack and shouldn’t be helping choose the field for the playoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, trueblue82 said: I don’t get saying “FSU is in.” They won a garbage conference. If being unbeaten with a conference championship is all it takes to get in the playoff, why are conferences trying to get stronger instead of weaker? If the playoff is really about having a true national champion that is the best team in the country, then you should want the four best teams in it. Anyone that thinks 2 of the top 4 didn’t play in Atlanta today is smoking crack and shouldn’t be helping choose the field for the playoff. I agree that the ACC is the weakest conference of the P5’s, but you can’t leave out an undefeated P5 team. If you do, you’re also saying winning your conference, and winning all your games, doesn’t matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETXfan16 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Valhalla said: The debate will be FSU or Texas. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Lobo97 said: I agree that the ACC is the weakest conference of the P5’s, but you can’t leave out an undefeated P5 team. If you do, you’re also saying winning your conference, and winning all your games, doesn’t matter. Then your playoff teams are Michigan, Washington, FSU and Liberty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regaleagle Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 The Committee is trapped with the FSU victory today. Nobody wants to see FSU in the playoff with a Freshman #2 QB that got sacked continually and could not effectively run the offense. The FSU defense won that game....and it was not a pretty game to watch or a good showing by either team. IF you took the best 4 teams today, then FSU would have to be left off that list. But this is a political situation and the committee is now against a wall regardless of their decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, trueblue82 said: Then your playoff teams are Michigan, Washington, FSU and Liberty? @KirtFalcon That is what he would say if Texas wants involved lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan11 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1. Michigan 2. Washington 3. FSU 4. Texas That’s what it should be. FSU has an elite defense and beat a rival with their #2 last week and he’ll be back in time for the playoffs. Texas and Bama are the 2 one loss conference champions. Normally you’d have to look at SOS and top 25 wins but here you have direct head to head. Texas gets the last spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, trueblue82 said: Then your playoff teams are Michigan, Washington, FSU and Liberty? Liberty isn’t a P5 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan11 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, regaleagle said: The Committee is trapped with the FSU victory today. Nobody wants to see FSU in the playoff with a Freshman #2 QB that got sacked continually and could not effectively run the offense. The FSU defense won that game....and it was not a pretty game to watch or a good showing by either team. IF you took the best 4 teams today, then FSU would have to be left off that list. But this is a political situation and the committee is now against a wall regardless of their decision. They played with their #3 Qb tonight. #2 was out with concussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regaleagle Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 So the Committee is aware that FSU's starting QB will be back in time......then FSU is certainly IN. AND like you say....Texas did win the head-to-head against Bama. They should keep it simple and choose Texas as the 4th team then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, regaleagle said: So the Committee is aware that FSU's starting QB will be back in time......then FSU is certainly IN. AND like you say....Texas did win the head-to-head against Bama. They should keep it simple and choose Texas as the 4th team then. Jordan Travis isn’t coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regaleagle Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 It's what the Committee assesses is best for the National Playoff. IF FSU does NOT have their starting QB and he's gone for the rest of the year, then FSU has to be discounted.....IF the Committee truly wants the 4 best teams today. But you can sorta bet your boots it ain't gonna happen that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 If the committee picks the “best 4 teams” then Georgia will be in the top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lobo97 said: Liberty isn’t a P5 team. It makes as much sense as saying that the ACC champ should get in just because they finished unbeaten against a garbage schedule. Truthfully, since most top players opt out of non-playoff bowl games now, the only true comparison we get of conferences is in the playoff, which the SEC has dominated. They’ve won 6 of 9 playoff championships, including the last four. The rest of the country is 3-15 vs the SEC in the playoff. Anyone lobbying to leave the winner of that conference out in favor of a team that they all admit is inferior is just saying they are tired of the SEC winning it every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Valhalla said: If the committee picks the “best 4 teams” then Georgia will be in the top 4. Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan11 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Valhalla said: If the committee picks the “best 4 teams” then Georgia will be in the top 4. This isn’t Georgia from 2 years ago or even last year. They’re a good top 6/7 team that could beat anyone but be beaten as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, JustAFan11 said: This isn’t Georgia from 2 years ago or even last year. They’re a good top 6/7 team that could beat anyone but be beaten as well. Just be when you guys start throwing out “best” teams. Because Georgia would favored to beat any team in the country. Yes even probably the team that just beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, Valhalla said: Just be when you guys start throwing out “best” teams. Because Georgia would favored to beat any team in the country. Yes even probably the team that just beat them. Alabama was favored to beat Texas. It didn’t matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 You know who says head to head doesn’t matter? The team that LOST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regaleagle Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Would Georgia be favored over Washington, Michigan and Texas right now? Or even Alabama? I don't think so. Maybe over Ohio State and Fla. State, maybe Oregon too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, regaleagle said: Would Georgia be favored over Washington, Michigan and Texas right now? Or even Alabama? I don't think so. Maybe over Ohio State and Fla. State, maybe Oregon too. Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regaleagle Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Absolutely what??? Absolutely they would be or absolutely not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regaleagle Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I think most will agree that Georgia is definitely OUT now. And because of the QB situation at FSU.....they could be left out. There is no sane way that Texas should be left out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I don’t think it matters who would be favored. Alabama was favored over Texas. It didn’t matter. H2H matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Repeat-I agree with Smart the BEST 4 teams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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