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Of the other three teams, Washington is the worse matchup for Texas IMO due to the passing attack and the Texas secondary having moments of lapse (has been looking better of late).  This was a 7 point

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I agree 100%.    We can argue all day about who the 4 'best' teams were, and that's all that matters. That argument is all opinionated. The only reason OSU was chosen in 2014, is because the

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1 hour ago, DB2point0 said:

What about the losses?  Does Saban have anything to do with those?  There were some ugly ones too.  
 

what about all the coaches Saban “rehabbed” that didn’t pan out?  

I suppose you could blame them on him if you want to. And don’t get me wrong. Sark can coach. The guy has the “IT” factor. He was successful before his personal demons nearly destroyed his career. And I do believe that he would have gotten back to success eventually as long as he is committed to staying clean. The point I was making is that Saban helped speed up the process of Sark getting back on a successful path. Kirby Smart was going to be a successful head coach with or without Nick Saban. But I guarantee that he or Sark, or Lane Kiffin or Dan Lanning would tell you that working with Saban was good for their careers. As far as the misses, not everyone that is a good coordinator is cut out to be a great head coach, especially under the microscope of a major program. Jeremy Pruitt is a prime example. The guy is probably Saban’s second best DC (behind Kirby), but was a disaster as a HC at Tennessee. Some guys just don’t have it. 

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34 minutes ago, trueblue82 said:

You have me mixed up with someone else. I was wearing BAMA gear on the school bus when your mama put you on there in your burnt orange knickerbockers. 

You do know that @KirtFalcon is older than dirt, I mean the dust on the dirt is younger than Kirtfalcon.....:rofl:

So saying you were doing thing prior to him, well that would make you REALLY Old..

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26 minutes ago, trueblue82 said:

I suppose you could blame them on him if you want to. And don’t get me wrong. Sark can coach. The guy has the “IT” factor. He was successful before his personal demons nearly destroyed his career. And I do believe that he would have gotten back to success eventually as long as he is committed to staying clean. The point I was making is that Saban helped speed up the process of Sark getting back on a successful path. Kirby Smart was going to be a successful head coach with or without Nick Saban. But I guarantee that he or Sark, or Lane Kiffin or Dan Lanning would tell you that working with Saban was good for their careers. As far as the misses, not everyone that is a good coordinator is cut out to be a great head coach, especially under the microscope of a major program. Jeremy Pruitt is a prime example. The guy is probably Saban’s second best DC (behind Kirby), but was a disaster as a HC at Tennessee. Some guys just don’t have it. 

If you’re gonna give Saban credit for sarks wins shouldn’t he take responsibility for losses?  Is Charlie Strong still on staff at Bama?  I want to see what Saban can do with him.  
 

it’s always good to be surrounded by good coaches and influences.  

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18 minutes ago, DannyZuco said:

You do know that @KirtFalcon is older than dirt, I mean the dust on the dirt is younger than Kirtfalcon.....:rofl:

So saying you were doing thing prior to him, well that would make you REALLY Old..

I’m well aware of his advanced age. I think I heard the current President speak once about their time together in Korea. They exhibit some of the same characteristics of cognitive decline. Although im not as old as Kirt and his buddy Joe, I’m not exactly a spring chicken. Seeing how I was born in Alabama and both of my parents were Tide fans, I have been one since birth. My grandfather was a big time BAMA fan, while my grandmother favored Auburn. She absolutely despised Joe Namath. No one would go near their house on Iron Bowl day. Tru storie. 

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17 minutes ago, trueblue82 said:

I’m well aware of his advanced age. I think I heard the current President speak once about their time together in Korea. They exhibit some of the same characteristics of cognitive decline. Although im not as old as Kirt and his buddy Joe, I’m not exactly a spring chicken. Seeing how I was born in Alabama and both of my parents were Tide fans, I have been one since birth. My grandfather was a big time BAMA fan, while my grandmother favored Auburn. She absolutely despised Joe Namath. No one would go near their house on Iron Bowl day. Tru storie. 

Wrong President ... I met President Reagan in Korea at the DMZ in 83 .... Did you say Slo Joe was your grandfather?  ....  That explains a lot ....  :woot:

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26 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

dementia as well, he doesn’t remember being an LSU fan for a while either

Negative. I did once root for Texas in the 2005 National Championship vs The University of Spoiled Children. Mainly because Vince Young was fun to watch and because USC ranks #3 on my list of teams I most like to see lose. Tru storie 

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Negative. I did once root for Texas in the 2005 National Championship vs The University of Spoiled Children. Mainly because Vince Young was fun to watch and because USC ranks #3 on my list of teams I most like to see lose. Tru storie 

Thats the truest thing you’ve said today.  VY was fun to watch 

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19 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

Thats the truest thing you’ve said today.  VY was fun to watch 

The truth of the matter is this: I enjoy watching good football players and good football teams play the game. Johnny Manziel was fun to watch, as long as he wasn’t playing your team. Ditto guys like Devonta Smith, Jayden Daniels, Tim Tebow, Derrick Henry, Kyler Murray, Brock Bowers, I could go on and on. Great teams, more often than not, are coached by great coaches. Nick Saban is the best the game has ever seen, to this point. He is second to none in recruiting, which is the lifeblood of a college program. He has made some very gutsy calls as a head coach, some of which worked out and made him look like a genius (inserting a true freshman QB at halftime of a national championship game), and others, not so much (lobbying for one second to be put back on the clock and trying a 57 yard FG with a freshman kicker in the Iron Bowl.) But the best thing about the guy is the way he is always willing to help his players, coaches and anyone else involved with the program better themselves. After the 2018 season that Jalen Hurts spent on the bench, then came in when Tua got injured to lead a comeback victory in the SECCG, Hurts told Saban that he planned to take advantage of the transfer portal so he could get another year as a starter under his belt. He wasn’t sure where he wanted to go. He had checked with Texas but wasn’t sure he was a good fit. He spoke with Mike Locksley at Maryland, but wasn’t sure about it. He also spoke with Lincoln Riley at OU. Saban essentially told him that it was a no-brainer to go play for Riley, who had coached back-to-back Heisman winners. Hurts took his advice and wound up as a Heisman finalist. Saban knew that there was a good chance that he would have to face Hurts if Alabama made the CFP in 2019. Didn’t matter. He advised the kid to do what was best for him. That said, I do believe that if Kirby Smart stays at UGA for a lengthy career, he will eventually surpass Saban in wins and championships. In 7 years, he has won 2 SEC titles and 2 national titles. He is very young, compared to Saban. I have no idea if he aspires to head to the NFL. I would think he has probably already turned down a couple of opportunities to do so. Georgia is his home. He had multiple opportunities to take really good jobs when he was at BAMA with Saban. He stayed until the Georgia job opened up. I would think it would take something huge to get him to leave. I also believe Sark will win a title at Texas in the next few years. The guy is an offensive genius and a great recruiter, and UT has unmatched resources. Like him or not, Nick Saban’s impact on college football will be felt for a long time after he is gone. 

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4 minutes ago, Valhalla said:

I wouldn't count on it. Going to USC was his bad choice.

It’s a talent rich area.  My point was that Saban pointed him to OU instead of another SEC team, or any team on Bama’s schedule.

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25 minutes ago, Valhalla said:

NIL and the transfer portal are what finally allowed Texas to rebuild.

So you're saying Texas didn't have talent before the NIL and transfer portal; that they didn't have top recruiting classes? Interesting. 

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1 minute ago, Lobo97 said:

So you're saying Texas didn't have talent before the NIL and transfer portal; that they didn't have top recruiting classes? Interesting. 

No, I'm saying NIL allowed to rebuild your OL room in one year instead of the 3-4 it probably would have taken in the pre-NIL world.

It also got you your QB, but I don't think getting a QB would have been an issue anyways.

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No, I'm saying NIL allowed to rebuild your OL room in one year instead of the 3-4 it probably would have taken in the pre-NIL world.

It also got you your QB, but I don't think getting a QB would have been an issue anyways.

The NIL has helped Texas with a few players, as it has every other program in the country. What helped Texas more than anything, is hiring a coaching staff that can actually develop talent, and knows how to utilize that talent. 

 

It's also funny that you mention the reason for Hurts going to OU was to play for the 'top offensive mind in football', but don't seem to factor that into your equation with why Texas has landed some of the offensive talent they have....such as Arch Manning. 

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2 minutes ago, Lobo97 said:

The NIL has helped Texas with a few players, as it has every other program in the country. What helped Texas more than anything, is hiring a coaching staff that can actually develop talent, and knows how to utilize that talent. 

 

It's also funny that you mention the reason for Hurts going to OU was to play for the 'top offensive mind in football', but don't seem to factor that into your equation with why Texas has landed some of the offensive talent they have....such as Arch Manning. 

Texas has always landed elite skill talent regardless of who their coach is.

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