Coach Rab Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 seriously? ... he was hyped far beyond his abilities and impact. If he were playing for another team he would have never got that much attention. I wouldn't even put him in the top 100 ... not even close ... I was throwing some guys out there that had some great college careers and looked great in the college game but looked like #### in the pros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I was throwing some guys out there that had some great college careers and looked great in the college game but looked like #### in the pros Ismail wasn't all that GREAT in college ... just over hyped ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasttexasAg Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 seriously? ... he was hyped far beyond his abilities and impact. If he were playing for another team he would have never got that much attention. I wouldn't even put him in the top 100 College football.com ranked him 75th all time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Ismail wasn't all that GREAT in college ... just over hyped ... Two-time first-team All-American as sophomore in '89 and junior in '90 and a unanimous pick in '90 when he finished second in Heisman Trophy voting behind BYU's Ty Detmer . . . became starter on 1988 national championship squad with 12 catches for 331 yards and two touchdowns, while returning 12 kickoffs for 433 yards and two TDs . . . had 64 rushing carries for 478 yards and two TDs in '89 and caught 27 passes for 535 yards . . . returned 20 kickoffs for 502 yards and two TDs with seven punt returns for 113 yards and one TD in '89 . . . Walter Camp Player of the Year in '90 . . . had 67 rushing carries for 537 yards and three TDs in '90, 32 pass receptions for 699 yards and two TDs, 14 kickoff returns for 336 yards and one TD while returning 13 punts for 151 yards . . . career totals included 273 all-purpose attempts for 4,187 yards and 15 TDs-- a 15.3 yards-per-attempt average . . . holds records for pass reception yards per catch in a career with 22.0 (71 for 1565); kickoff returns for touchdowns in a game with two (vs. Michigan in 1989 and again vs. Rice in 1988) and in a career with five; kick return yards per attempt in a career with 22.6 (17 for 1607) . . . originally played with Toronto Argonauts of Canadian Football League . . . a fourth-round draft pick of Los Angeles Raiders in 1991 NFL draft . . . joined Raiders beginning in 1993 season, played for the Carolina Panthers from 1996-98 and became a member of the Dallas Cowboys in 1999... listed as the 75th greatest football player of all-time by collegefootball.com. He was Mr. All-purpose. If I remember right, he also played Safety or corner in their prevent packages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie98 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Ndamukong Suh is probably the most dominant defensive player I've seen in college football. Offensively, hard to say who is best. My top 3 in terms of freak-level athleticism would be Bo, Hershel, and Randy Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle34 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Tony Dorsett, Barry Sanders, VY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudge Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 The Boz deserves consideration on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Jim Brown Mean Joe Green, Bob Lilly Robert Newhouse The list is too long to be able to pick THE best of them all, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'll take Vince Young. By far greatest athlete I've ever witnessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'll take Vince Young. By far greatest athlete I've ever witnessed. I don't remember VY's career... Just that 1 season, especially that 1 game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I don't remember VY's career... Just that 1 season, especially that 1 game... You probably don't want to remember his whole career lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't remember VY's career... Just that 1 season, especially that 1 game... I remember he came in against utep his first season, never looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 VY has to be at or near the top of the list ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topher805 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Colt McCoy Reggie Bush Bo Jackson Hershall Walker Peter Warrick Michael Vick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WETSU Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't care about stats, Colt McCoy is no where near the top of this list. I actually think VY isn't even for sure top 5, much less colt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackem Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I think a lot of these nominations are clouded by college loyalties and too young to remember some of the greats. Ever is used; some played both offense and defense, Probably not the greatest but certainly deserving of a nomination is Doak Walker Jim Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topher805 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't care about stats, Colt McCoy is no where near the top of this list. I actually think VY isn't even for sure top 5, much less colt. Winningest player in college football history. He wasn't as flashy as VY or some of these others, but tough to argue results. I threw up in my mouth ad I typed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I think a lot of these nominations are clouded by college loyalties and too young to remember some of the greats. Ever is used; some played both offense and defense, Probably not the greatest but certainly deserving of a nomination is Doak Walker Jim Brown Hey now, I haven't listed a single LSU great... but since you mentioned it... Billy Cannon QB LSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Winningest player in college football history. He wasn't as flashy as VY or some of these others, but tough to argue results. I threw up in my mouth ad I typed that. I'm with WETSU on this one. Great teams, perfect QB for those teams, but nowhere near the top of the list. Hell, I bet we could put together a list if QBS that runs 30+ deep before we even mention McCoy. But while we are on it, who is the OU QB tha t he did the Christian ads and videos with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WETSU Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 Winningest player in college football history. He wasn't as flashy as VY or some of these others, but tough to argue results. I threw up in my mouth ad I typed that. That stat is meaningless in my eyes. He didn't win those games by himself. Hell he probably loses 3+ his senior year if he doesn't have a top 5 defense to bail him out. Point is, counting wins or championships for QBs is a terrible measurement. This is far too much of a team game for that. Why would we not use most wins for a starting safety? Or offensive Tackle? Wins don't really mean much for me in the measurement of a Qb. There are lots of REALLY good QBs who didn't win championships because of defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Knute Rockne ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal13 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't care about stats, Colt McCoy is no where near the top of this list. I actually think VY isn't even for sure top 5, much less colt. Of course you don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Case McCoy :wacko: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WETSU Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 Of course you don'tI post more "stats" or "numbers" to back my argument than anyone on this board. I always am backing my argument. I don't just post random "Aggy gonna Aggy" bs like you. What I mean by I don't care about stats is that his win total is irrelevant in this discussion because wins are irrelevant for a individual player in this game. It's not baseball where a pitcher can shut down the opposing team by himself. This is a team game where a Qb can't do ANYTHING without the help of oline, wrs, rbs, and some defense to help with the win. Colt was not a dominant player in any sense. He doesn't belong in the same sentence as players like Herschel Walker, Archie Manning ect... Colt was a very good player and accomplished some good things in his career. But he's not even in the mention of best player ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Case McCoy :wacko:Case McCoy doesn't even Belong on this SITE, let alone this Thread...🙈🙉🙊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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