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The new goal posts have been installed at Rose Stadium. They are white. Can't wait to see how the new turf will look. It will probably be the same design as usual. 

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Someone from Whitehouse complaining about class and sportsmanship... That's irony. Sports or not.

Well "those" you spoke with really weren't paying very close attention then. While it wasn't a large score disparity it wasn't really that close of a call especially statistically.  Marshall

Longview schedules Beaumont West Brook to replace West Monroe. Game will take place on Thursday, October 15th at Lufkin.

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52 minutes ago, Aledo said:

Also CH needs to be around 13 

If CH isn't in your top 10....you're in for a surprise.

First off, look at who they hired as HC in the off-season. Kirk Martin, super huge hire and even an upgrade from what they had. This dude is fresh from Syracuse where he was the QBs coach, but before that he went 108-25 as HC at Manvel in 10 seasons, and played for multiple state titles. So, coaching ✅ 

Now lets talk about the talent. There's a reason folks said Joe Willis was a little crazy for leaving CH for Tyler Lee at this particular time because he had a helluva team coming back. 7 back on offense, 6 back on defense. QB AJ Smith has numerous offers, RB Braxton Ash returns ....SB Isaac Shabay, WR Hogan Wasson and D1 TE Jaggar Hebeison all retusn as targets. 2 returning on the OL. DE Taylor Steele and DL Ian Scott returning on that odd man front, Luke Lingard back at LB....Hogan Wasson, Joshua Dobbins and Dylahn McKinney back in the secondary. So, talent also ✅ 

Top 10 team for me and early favorite for R1 in my eyes.

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1 hour ago, Aledo said:

A Longview fan putting them at #1, shocker!

Look at what they return.

If you put Ryan above LV, cool. Like I said, there's not much gap between the two. I gave LV the edge because of coaching + the ability to run the ball at will, having one of the best backs in the state in Kaden Meredith + another promising defense. But, not sure how you can put anyone else over LV at this point.

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1 hour ago, NODAYSOFFTX said:

Lancaster will choke as always, there whole offense went thru one player last year and he is gone so I don’t understand there ranking so someone enlighten me. Also They can’t get past the discipline/ Mental barrier. They just a good regular season team in a bad district most of the time. 

Lancaster is loaded. Not sure what one player you are referring to, but QB Glenn Rice Jr is back. He won district newcomer of the year last year as a sophomore, but probably would have won overall MVP had he not been in the same district with HP's Chandler Morris.

Rice put up 3100 total yards and 34 total TDs in 2019 AS A SOPHOMORE. Has a whole bunch around him too and will have one of the best OLs in 5A in front of him. 

Now, its a stacked region. So of course they could lose well before state but it wont mean they were a bad team.

 

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47 minutes ago, ANTI said:

If you put Ryan above LV, cool. Like I said, there's not much gap between the two. I gave LV the edge because of coaching + the ability to run the ball at will, having one of the best backs in the state in Kaden Meredith + another promising defense. But, not sure how you can put anyone else over LV at this point.

A healthy Kaden + solid defense = legit State run. 

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4 minutes ago, LOL said:

A healthy Kaden + solid defense = legit State run. 

He wont even have to handle all of the load either. Markevion Haynes (5'10 200) to me is one of the best kept secrets on offense. A bomb waiting to blow.

He's a 3 year varsity player like Meredith but injuries havent allowed Lobo fans to truly see his talents. But that 50 yard TD run he had against Lufkin Week 1 in '19 is very much the caliber of player that he is. 

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3 hours ago, VonG said:

The new goal posts have been installed at Rose Stadium. They are white. Can't wait to see how the new turf will look. It will probably be the same design as usual. 

cool.  I wonder why they changed the goal post.

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On 6/12/2020 at 8:19 PM, CUJONATION83 said:

JT propably has between 150 to 160 kids between the 3 levels. We'll have about 45 to 50 on varsity, 40 on JV, and around 60 freshman. There are alot of reasons for this. 

hearing there could be 4 to 5 freshman on varsity this yr.

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33 minutes ago, Eagleborn said:

I believe that’s 6 ETx schools now. 

Only going to keep going up, I'm afraid.  This isn't going away anytime soon. 

Nothing will slow this down but herd immunity..... or a vaccine.... neither of which are on the immediate horizon.

We would still be a 6months-year from a vaccine.  Maybe longer.

Herd immunity will be longer.  60-70% of the American population needs to be infected in order for us to declare herd immunity.  We're sitting at about 5% infected right now (including those recovered).  So if it's taken 4 months to hit 5%..... do the math for 60-70% (about 4.5 years).  

And that's hoping for no mutations like we see with seasonal flu.  That will complicate both vaccination and herd immunity.

At risk needs to remain vigilant.  Low risk needs to continue being smart.

The problem with the schools that infinitesimally small percentage of low risk young people that die from Coronavirus.  It's SO UNLIKELY.  But it's not impossible...... and the more ISD's that go forward.... that improbable becomes more and more probable.  

No ISD wants that blood on their hands.  Can't imagine the backlash from the community, the state, the nation if a football/volleyball/cross country died.  "Why didn't you protect them".  It's not fair to blame the ISD... but that's where the blame would fall.  

Glad I'm not the one making decisions.  It's a lose-lose situation on both sides.

I want things to open up and move on too.  But I also want things to be smart.  It's a tough balancing act.

 

 

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Based on what you are saying Mav, and you have the medical background. We are generally whiffing in the wind here. If this virus is not going away, and we  have no vaccine or herd immunity, and continue to follow this same protocol, then you won't start school on time, if at all . This will affect having a football and Volleyball season period. It also hampers your basketball, cross country seasons and then bleeds over to baseball , softball and soccer AGAIN.........cause your not going to have a vaccine available to the general population by January or February, or herd immunity.   That's, IF we follow this current protocol of shutting stuff down every time there is one or two cases in the group.  It's not going to work, because the whole team must get together to practice at some point and you are definitely together when you play the game on the field.  I just don't see how it will ever work under the current way of just shut it all down when someone test positive.  You will be lucky to get three games in this season with this criteria.

I want to know how many on this site have had the COVID19 virus and recovered from it, or not?  How did it affect you? How did you contract it or do you even know?  This might help our perspective moving forward.

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2 hours ago, PackAttack said:

Based on what you are saying Mav, and you have the medical background. We are generally whiffing in the wind here. If this virus is not going away, and we  have no vaccine or herd immunity, and continue to follow this same protocol, then you won't start school on time, if at all . This will affect having a football and Volleyball season period. It also hampers your basketball, cross country seasons and then bleeds over to baseball , softball and soccer AGAIN.........cause your not going to have a vaccine available to the general population by January or February, or herd immunity.   That's, IF we follow this current protocol of shutting stuff down every time there is one or two cases in the group.  It's not going to work, because the whole team must get together to practice at some point and you are definitely together when you play the game on the field.  I just don't see how it will ever work under the current way of just shut it all down when someone test positive.  You will be lucky to get three games in this season with this criteria.

I want to know how many on this site have had the COVID19 virus and recovered from it, or not?  How did it affect you? How did you contract it or do you even know?  This might help our perspective moving forward.

The truth of the matter is this.... no one knows.  Medicine is called a practice for a reason.   It's not like the laws of physics and chemistry where the expected outcome is going to happen 100% of the time EVERY TIME.  It's just not how it works.  If it were..... most of our health issues as a species would have been eradicated generations ago. 

People want to mock those that are helping form policies by calling them "the experts" like they have any way to predicting how this is going to go down.  We can't compare it to a pandemic 100 years ago... or any other outbreak since.  They are each different.   They are learning as they go.  But all these armchair doctors and political experts want to chime in with the most ignorant garbage ever seen on the internet.

Trying to predict how a virus is going to behave in a population of 6 billion people is like trying to predict how your 4 month old is going to behave when they are 16.  Impossible.

I think we've reached a point where most agree we need to start getting things up and running again... but how much how quick.... is a point of debate.  

Hope for a vaccine is there.  But it's not going to be immediate. 

And herd immunity is years away....  Coronavirus could play itself out before we even get there. 

As long as UIL doesn't close it all down.......I personally think football will happen this fall.  Some ISD's will participate.... and some won't.  It's going to be a mess.

Each district will decide for themselves..... either based on legit health concerns.... some based on the political base of their constituency... and some of fear of litigation/scrutiny of a possible death.

It could be a mess.  Can you imagine district 9.... Texas High, Marshall, PT, and Nac all decide to play... but Jax, WH, Hallsville, and MP decide to sit out.  Could be a mess.

If I had to predict.... most rural ISD's will move forward with sports if given the chance.  Inner city schools will be pressured to likely sit out... and suburban schools will a mix of the two based on their political bases.  JMHO.

I'm hopeful for the season...... but I don't think it's going to be normal by any stretch of the imagination. 

I think there's a chance of no bands, pep squads, cheerleaders.  I think home season ticket holders will be scattered about on the home AND the visitors' sides.  And visiting fans will have very limited seating because their side will have so many home fans.  I hope I'm wrong on some of that....but it's things I've thought about.

 

 

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4 hours ago, JTFAN99 said:

cool.  I wonder why they changed the goal post.

Who knows. With so much bond left over it seems to me they are in the spending business right now. 

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4 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

 

We would still be a 6months-year from a vaccine.  Maybe longer.

 

 

 

 

Mav I know you are in medical profession too.  Any vaccine that shows up in 6 months I will probably not be willing to take. It takes 6-8 months to grow influenza vaccines each year & that is with a head start.   The dangers of rushing a vaccine are IMO greater than the disease (at least at this point in time)

You are exactly right in saying we are in a lose-lose situation.  There is no right or wrong thing to do at this point. 

 

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6 hours ago, THSfanatic said:

Mav I know you are in medical profession too.  Any vaccine that shows up in 6 months I will probably not be willing to take. It takes 6-8 months to grow influenza vaccines each year & that is with a head start.   The dangers of rushing a vaccine are IMO greater than the disease (at least at this point in time)

You are exactly right in saying we are in a lose-lose situation.  There is no right or wrong thing to do at this point. 

 

Absolutely.  6 months to a year is how long it could be before a vaccine is developed.

Distribution is a whole different story.  But still much shorter than achieving herd immunity. 

And yes.... I’d have reservations about a rushed vaccine too UNLESS this was to get exponentially worse in the coming months and we saw fatality rates skyrocketing.

My risk/reward may be too great to say no if things were to get really grim.  But as for now.... I’d have the luxury of passing on a first line vaccine due to my age and health.

Not everyone can afford that luxury. 

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Back to football....
focusing on the positive. 

#13 !!!  Woohooo!  Go Mavs Go!!  

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UIL has made a few new approvals:

Pushing the ball carrier forward is prohibited.

There will be heat time outs.  They have those in Louisiana.

Altering the targeting penalty

Change  to the touch back rule

Proposal to alter the kick off/ punt returns

Sounds like FOOTBALL for sure.

 

Lifting the broadcast rules for Friday Night football

Approved Streaming games for Friday Night Football for the 2020 season only.

U.I.L. has a $12.8 Million  budget for 2020-2021.

Fast Forward to the 32:40 mark to catch up on the football proposals.

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English premier League is returning along with several other European leagues. 

NBA and NFL seem to be moving forward as scheduled. 

Only MLB seems to be flubbing this up and it has zilch to do with the pandemic. 

But I think txhsfb will be different this fall. No doubt about it. 

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I'm hoping for a somewhat regular season.   Back with teams I know something about and we do have more returning talent that the last few years.  I'm hopefully optimistic which is something I haven't been in about 5 years.   Hope what I see as potential pans out.  I was more than a little surprised last year. If we hadn't lost QB for several games it would have looked much better on paper.

 

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2 hours ago, THSfanatic said:

I'm hoping for a somewhat regular season.   Back with teams I know something about and we do have more returning talent that the last few years.  I'm hopefully optimistic which is something I haven't been in about 5 years.   Hope what I see as potential pans out.  I was more than a little surprised last year. If we hadn't lost QB for several games it would have looked much better on paper.

 

I can't imagine the complete disconnect Texas High fans had with all those DFW schools/fans while they were Division I. 

Not only do you have ZERO history with them.... but the long drives would squash attendance for home and away games.  

Just seems.....blahhhhhhh to me.

I really enjoy the bigger crowds and the atmosphere of playing teams we have history with.... and relatively short drives.

Welcome back to the flock....glad to have ya'll.  Just don't get too bossy about taking over the district LOL.  

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I'm optimistic about the 2020 season too for Marshall.  We have tons coming back. 

Our defense should be nasty good.  

Offense has tons of talent back.  Should have a great backfield.... and a strong corps of WR's returning.

Just that one question mark to fill..... which I hear is going to be a fierce competition.  

Great news.

Excited about the season!

 

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