cujoforlife Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 9 hours ago, tomlandry said: Heard this as well at UIL yesterday Fans always want the big time names to come to their program. From the looks of it. Will be an OC or DC from some school trying to get his name out there. Which could be a good thing or a bad thing and end up like Legacy. Seeing a new coach every two to three years.
Crossfield Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 19 hours ago, 3rdcoastent said: I was talking to somebody and this name came up don’t know who this guy is but the name Lester melontree anybody fimilar with him? And the actual ch rumor was stated by a chapel hill poster who has a kid on the ch team a female I did my investigating …. That is a referee in the Tyler Chapter. He played college ball at the University of Pitt.
threejs Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 On 12/15/2022 at 12:11 AM, 3rdcoastent said: I was talking to somebody and this name came up don’t know who this guy is but the name Lester melontree anybody fimilar with him? And the actual ch rumor was stated by a chapel hill poster who has a kid on the ch team a female I did my investigating …. https://www.profootballarchives.com/playerm/melo00230.html
GoodOleBoy73 Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 The guy that gets this one could be bringing some good BBQ with him.
Bob Uecker Posted December 16, 2022 Author Posted December 16, 2022 Sources tells me Tyler might have their guy already. The job posting is down from the THSCA site.
NODAYSOFFTX Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, TrumpisDump said: Sources tells me Tyler might have their guy already. The job posting is down from the THSCA site. From what area?
VonG Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 Tisd should head to Carthage and make either the oc or dc the highest paid coach in the state. That's if they haven't already found their coach.
cujoforlife Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 9 hours ago, TrumpisDump said: Sources tells me Tyler might have their guy already. The job posting is down from the THSCA site. Good to know that TISD has already found their guy. Now we just have to guess who it is lol
Slickarick Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 8 hours ago, VonG said: Tisd should head to Carthage and make either the oc or dc the highest paid coach in the state. That's if they haven't already found their coach. They have the pull to pay them 165 plus ? When Holmes was around 110.
Grainraiser Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Slickarick said: They have the pull to pay them 165 plus ? When Holmes was around 110. No way does and OC with no HC experience get's that kind of money. That is not going to happen.
VonG Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Slickarick said: They have the pull to pay them 165 plus ? When Holmes was around 110. Holmes got a big raise when Willis came to town.
Slickarick Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, VonG said: Holmes got a big raise when Willis came to town. Last i saw was around 110 so probably 120-130. 1
cujoforlife Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Grainraiser said: No way does and OC with no HC experience get's that kind of money. That is not going to happen. they had to pay something close to get someone interested in the job.
3rdcoastent Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 So Holmes stepped down and quit what the news article says but didn’t get fired seems like he gave them the weeks notice and they may have already filled position but I still feel like he was let go just saying he resigned sounds better
LionHated Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 It’s all moot at this point. The fan base got what it believes it wanted. I’m sure he’s moved on so, let’s not be toxic. It really doesn’t matter how we got here. All that matters now is finding the right person for the job. I don’t see this as being a quick fix situation. I also don’t believe poaching a talented OC or DC is going to solve TH problems. Most of Holmes offenses were prolific. TH had mostly game management and line of scrimmage issues. Their problems started when they made the decision to outscore teams instead of the willingness to win games 21-7. That and non of the scheme seemed complementary to any other part. I think the whole thing was just mismanaged more than anything else. Watching this weekend’s championship games just further magnifies my belief. Carthage IS EXTREMELY well coached. SOC just exploited matchups. The SOC approach would be the quicker fix in my opinion. 1
Clear Eyes Full Heart Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 What about one of the coordinators from Chapel Hill? They know how to get a program straight. 2-8 to back to back semi-finalists. CH has similar kids and challenges as Tyler High. Might be smart to look that way.
JTFAN99 Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Clear Eyes Full Heart said: What about one of the coordinators from Chapel Hill? They know how to get a program straight. 2-8 to back to back semi-finalists. CH has similar kids and challenges as Tyler High. Might be smart to look that way. CH and Tyler High aren't as similar as you think. Tyler high is twice the size and the demographics are different Honestly...Tyler High is really the only school in East Texas that comes close to resembling the characteristics of an inner city school. Edited December 17, 2022 by JTFAN99
Clear Eyes Full Heart Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JTFAN99 said: CH and Tyler High aren't as similar as you think. Tyler high is twice the size and the demographics are different Honestly...Tyler High is really the only school in East Texas that comes close to resembling the characteristics of an inner city school. You’re right, it is twice the size. However both schools demographics aren’t as different as you might think. In the TEA AEIS report, both schools report for each campus to have a majority Hispanic population, followed by African American. Edited December 17, 2022 by Clear Eyes Full Heart
Clear Eyes Full Heart Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Clear Eyes Full Heart said: You’re right, it is twice the size. However both schools demographics aren’t as different as you might think. In the TEA AEIS report, both schools report for each campus to have a majority Hispanic population, followed by African American. In addition, both campus’ are 77% economically disadvantaged. A lot of the same.
JTFAN99 Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Clear Eyes Full Heart said: You’re right, it is twice the size. However both schools demographics aren’t as different as you might think. In the TEA AEIS report, both schools report for each campus to have a majority Hispanic population, followed by African American. go back and double check. The demographics are very different. JT is 60& Hispanic..35% Black....less than 3% White CH is 45% Hispanic... 30% White... 20% Black... Chapel hill has a much more diverse population than JT. Also, Its more than just demographics. Its also about school environment, booster support, fan support, etc. Go look in the stands at a JT game and go look in the stands at a Chapel Hill game. Go look at the booser support for each school. You will see clear differences. JT is much closer to Dallas Carter than Chapel Hill Edited December 17, 2022 by JTFAN99
Clear Eyes Full Heart Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, JTFAN99 said: go back and double check. The demographics are very different. JT is 60& Hispanic..35% Black....less than 3% White CH is 45% Hispanic... 30% White... 20% Black... Chapel hill has a much more diverse population than JT. Also, Its more than just demographics. Its also about school environment, booster support, fan support, etc. Go look in the stands at a JT game and go look in the stands at a Chapel Hill game. Go look at the booser support for each school. You will see clear differences. JT is much closer to Dallas Carter than Chapel Hill You’re right-I got the white demographics wrong, but they are over 50% Hispanic. Look in the stands when CH was losing and compare. No one showed up when CH was 2-8. Then look when CH is winning and when Tyler High use to win-a lot to compare here. Here is the last report on CH for last year. Regardless, those CH coaches have something Tyler High needs-the way and a record of winning. When Tyler High has to REPOST the job, people aren’t lining up to take it. That’s all I’m saying man. I doubt SOC coordinators are coming to Tyler High.
903popparose90 Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 No matter who they bring in they still won't be a playoff team next year.
JTFAN99 Posted December 18, 2022 Posted December 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Clear Eyes Full Heart said: You’re right-I got the white demographics wrong, but they are over 50% Hispanic. Look in the stands when CH was losing and compare. No one showed up when CH was 2-8. Then look when CH is winning and when Tyler High use to win-a lot to compare here. Here is the last report on CH for last year. Regardless, those CH coaches have something Tyler High needs-the way and a record of winning. When Tyler High has to REPOST the job, people aren’t lining up to take it. That’s all I’m saying man. I doubt SOC coordinators are coming to Tyler High. I wasn't talking about ust the amount of people in the stands, but the demographics of those in the stands.
VonG Posted December 18, 2022 Posted December 18, 2022 Tyler is not a bad job. In my opinion, you just have a abundance of jobs in the state compared to years past. You don't have to go to a historical good school anymore. You can make a new school be great. Just look at all the new schools that are having success.
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